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    TVRepairMan — 10 years ago(July 16, 2015 11:21 AM)

    The bombing from this episode really happened and it was done by Ilich Ramrez Snchez (aka Carlos the Jackal). But Snchez is alive and in French prison right now, so how could Martin have killed him in a subway tunnel in 1983?

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      bautz-ralf — 10 years ago(July 16, 2015 01:28 PM)

      Most likely it was a helper of Carlos, who placed the bomb. Carlos wasn't a one man terrorist organisation.

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        Sandoz — 10 years ago(July 17, 2015 04:57 AM)

        What I wasn't sure about at firstand had to watch a second timewas if he was chasing the same guy that he gave the tin of decaf coffee toand it was.
        It seemed like a huge stretch that the KGB would use Martin (who's already in deep undercover for one specific mission in the West German military) to also be the same agent to deliver a detonator to a member of a terrorist group.
        The only other reason I could think this might have future bearing in the show is if the General's son perhaps becomes a member of such a gang, because his sympathies were headed in that direction.
        Can you dig it? I knew that you could!

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          kit-sung — 10 years ago(July 20, 2015 09:06 AM)

          Carlos didn't plant the bomb himself. His right hand Johannes Weinrich aided a Lebanese group and a member of that group, a guy from Lebanon, planted the bomb. In reality the members of the group fled through east Berlin. The Stasi knew about the attack but let it happen, so maybe that will be a part of future episodes.

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            tjh3123 — 10 years ago(July 23, 2015 05:06 PM)

            This is a fictional take, a la the Bourne trilogy and The Assignment among others.

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              TVRepairMan — 10 years ago(July 23, 2015 10:01 PM)

              This is historical fiction. The show has been pretty good with that. The Korean Airliner shoot down was real, Able Archer was real, 1983 did see a huge peace rally in Germany. The deployment of Pershing IIs was a huge issue in 1983. And the bombing was real. It would make no sense to suddenly diverge and have a fictional character on the show kill a real historical figure who was not killed in 1983.
              But as some above have suggested, it may not have actually Carlos he encountered although on the show they kind of presented it that way.

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                htowninsomniac — 10 years ago(January 31, 2016 05:43 PM)

                The guy actually looked a lot like Johannes Weinrich, who was sentenced to life in prison for the bombing.
                http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/wegen-sprengstoffanschlag-lebenslang-fuer-johannes-weinrich-a-60042.html

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                  laymonite-2 — 10 years ago(February 23, 2016 04:19 PM)

                  I may have missed a bit, but it didn't show the man seemingly linked to the bombing being killed did it? Didn't he leave him unconscious on a railway track and walk off?

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                    swlipblog — 10 years ago(July 24, 2015 01:41 PM)

                    I suspect that we'll find later that he didn't kill the bomber, that the guy he killed was someone else.

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                      teresah233 — 10 years ago(July 27, 2015 07:57 PM)

                      I think when watching this episode it seems like Carlos was the person who was killed. What they actually say is, "Carlos, Masion de France", meaning Carlos took responsibility for the bombing.
                      This is a fictionalized account of Carlos passing through East Germany on his way to the West where the East Germans "had to return" the bombs he had smuggled in. Because they didn't know where he might use them, the East Germans removed the detonators.
                      What Martin, unknowingly, delivered in the red Decaf cans was the detonator for the bomb.

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