Significance of the opening sequence?
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phelpsg1 — 9 years ago(December 16, 2016 12:37 AM)
According to Ford, the opening sequence (one of the few times I've covered my eyes during a film) is intended to be "a metaphorical statement on American society" (see the Trivia section here). Can anybody tell me what statement he is trying to make on American society? Or is it simply a satirical comment on what passes for "art" nowadays? I notice that the gallery includes a Damien Hirst installation (a bull posed as St. Sebastian) and a painting that just consists of the word REVENGE. What are we to make of these items?
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TheAnimalMother — 9 years ago(December 16, 2016 05:46 AM)
True, but I believe the opening sequence is quite clearly a reflection of not only American Society, but also of the artist herself,(The Amy Adams character). She and society in general pretend to be all shiny and happy on the outside, meanwhile on the inside they feel gluttonous, ugly, fake and silly, or something to that effect anyway.
The REVENGE painting is a little more complex. I'll just say this. The whole films central theme is his revenge I'd say, or even her own upon herself. He has moved on and has let go of the past(His novel tells us this.), yet she now lives a hollow life, and wishes she wasn't so afraid in the past, and in fear convinced herself to leave her true love. She followed what looked better on the outside, and what seemed easier. She didn't follow the inner road of her own heart, she feared being creative and living creatively back then. She was the weaker one really, and her own life now is the biggest revenge of all. She, in a very real sense sabotaged her own life with her bad choices. She also picked out the revenge painting we are told in the film.
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Farshnoshket — 9 years ago(December 16, 2016 01:01 PM)
The opening sequence is a representation of what the LA scene would consider as 'good art', illustrating 'ugly America'. If you remember Susan starts to question her own work, wondering it's worth, while everyone else, her friends, praise her. She wonders her own worth and it seems like she feels she might have sold out for the 'good life', but it ain't so good. When the truth is revealed it can be quite ugly.
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zeuthuk — 9 years ago(January 15, 2017 04:47 AM)
The opening sequence is a representation of what the LA scene would consider as 'good art', illustrating 'ugly America'.
This statement proves once again you're a moron and have failed to grasp simple logic.
It is not a representation of L.A. it is a representation of the people from Beverly Hills. Susan lives in Beverly Hills and the gallery is in LA. Tom Ford has followed in the footsteps of David Lynch with his cold portrayal of people from Beverly Hills, which is one of the wealthiest per-capita areas in the U.S. You might remember Lynchs film Mulholland Drive which is located in Beverly Hills and not L.A.
The opening sequence is filmed in Beverly Hills and this is not a representation of American society.
How long have you spent poring over this film and to think you have the script. It makes me question your other posts on this film and their accuracy.
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gantonopoulos1 — 9 years ago(December 16, 2016 04:55 PM)
I just know if Tom Ford was heavy he would not have made that opening sequence.
Portraying heavy women as something disgusting
and grotesque tells me something about Tom Ford's hate and bigotry towards human beings who are overweight. -
Reverend_Powell — 9 years ago(December 16, 2016 05:36 PM)
It is a true sign of weakness.
It's really not actually. I eat pretty much whatever I want and drink a ton of alcohol, and I can't gain weight. Always been skinny. The only time I've ever gained weight was when I got into weight lifting. Some people just put on weight easier than others. It's not always weakness. A lot of times it's merely genetics.
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mrpinbert — 9 years ago(December 18, 2016 09:30 AM)
I just know if Tom Ford was heavy he would not have made that opening sequence.
Portraying heavy women as something disgusting
and grotesque tells me something about Tom Ford's hate and bigotry towards human beings who are overweight.
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Kompressor_Fan — 9 years ago(January 11, 2017 11:09 AM)
Portraying heavy women as something disgusting
and grotesque tells me something about Tom Ford's hate and bigotry towards human beings who are overweight.
I guess it's all in the eye in the beholder. I saw the very opposite. In my eyes, it looked to me that they were portrayed as being joyous, and free of any inhibition or shame. -
tigerfish50 — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 04:02 PM)
I guess it's all in the eye in the beholder.
The obese women were probably a nod at the work of contemporary British artist, Jenny Savile, who has been extremely successful with her paintings of nude overweight women, and has even portrayed herself in that mode.
She's an extremely skilled technical painter, the nudes are monumental in scale, and very few people regard her work as disrespectful.