Improvement over 4 & 5
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dave626 — 9 years ago(September 10, 2016 06:31 PM)
Resurrection had a basement and underground tunnels. So could have any version of the Myers houses we've seen over the years. We just don't know. Easier to go down than up. And again, Res."s and even 6's conforming to the original house is because of whiny fans and nothing more. Had nothing to do with the story. They just didn't want people to bitch about it anymore.
5's timeline goofs could've easily been fixed if they waited a year to release it. 1990 wouldn't have been a big deal or changed a title card to 2 years later. Movies don't occur in real time and jump in the future all the time, like Jason X, literally.
But they didn't and it's haunted them. To me, the house didn't seal the movie's fate in any of the films. It was a set piece, nothing more. Saying a movie sucked because of a prop is silly. Acting, story, production, those are good excuses and what made H20 so awful for me. But that's neither here nor their. It's all subjective and a matter of personal opinion, which everyone is entitled too, I suppose and not meant to be swayed by constant arguing. This debate has gone on long enough for me. After 25+ years, I'm over Halloween 5.
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Manna-Fest — 9 years ago(September 11, 2016 04:14 PM)
Resurrection had a basement and underground tunnels. So could have any version of the Myers houses we've seen over the years. We just don't know. Easier to go down than up.
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Yes, but the house seemed much bigger on the inside than the outside and that's just besides the basement scenes. Characters are getting stalked and attacked without notice by others and there's screaming and glass shattering going on without notice. In a small house, this makes no sense. And how is it that no one is bumping into each other all like that? It's more like they're in that mansion in Scream 3 than the Myers house. But my point is, they did not need a drastically big house to fulfill their duties of a mansion-like inside setting. We're just to ignore that and just appreciate the fact they got the house right and looking like the original one and no on is bound to really pay attention to how much bigger it seems on the inside than out.
5's timeline goofs could've easily been fixed if they waited a year to release it. 1990 wouldn't have been a big deal or changed a title card to 2 years later. Movies don't occur in real time and jump in the future all the time, like Jason X, literally.
True, but Halloween is one of those series that flows with real time. Practically every movie is set in it's present year of production and release except for Halloween II and Rob Zombie's Halloween II. Two years would have just seemed a bit of a drag, especially when you have that old hermit guy taking care of Michael. The fact he had him for a whole year is stretching enough but for TWO? It wouldn't have worked. I am curious to why the hermit didn't just have him taken to a hospital.
But they didn't and it's haunted them. To me, the house didn't seal the movie's fate in any of the films. It was a set piece, nothing more. Saying a movie sucked because of a prop is silly.
That includes the mask too. I LOVED the mask and even tried to make one myself out of dough and it didn't work out. I love the F-CK out of Halloween 5 but is still bugged out by the house. -
LuckyMatt93 — 9 years ago(September 13, 2016 08:13 PM)
I wouldn't say it's better than Halloween 4 but pretty much anything save for Resurrection is better than H5. I'm sorry but that movie still is almost borderline unwatchable to me. There's literally no aspect of it that was even the least bit positive. The cinematography was lousy and looked like they were filming behind a greasy camera lens, the characters were either annoying AF (pretty much every single one of the teenagers) or uncharacteristic of themselves (Jaime, Rachel, Loomis), Michael's mask was awful and the story itself was just plain dull on top of being contrived.
I really enjoyed 4 even despite its lackluster third half. It was artistic, had strong character development and felt like way more of a return to the roots of the first three films than H20 did.
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Hannibal_Manhunter89 — 9 years ago(September 18, 2016 11:42 PM)
4 was the best after the original, and 5 is criminally underrated.
6 was ok, but it had the potential to be a great sequel and it failed to live up to what it could achieve (tried to explain too much, the convoluted backstory/plot, confusing ending, etc). The films troubled production didn't help it either. The Producer's Cut is the superior version, but even it is not that memorable. -
NorthernLad — 9 years ago(November 05, 2016 07:36 PM)
Just watched this again tonight, and yeah I found it slightly better than 4 and 5. But the mask really wasn't much better. And I don't really like the curse crap. It makes Michael look like a pawn in someone else's game and that's just wrong.
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