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sheetsadam1 — 7 months ago(August 18, 2025 07:33 PM)
I haven't seen
Gilda
in years, so I'll need to rewatch it with that criticism in mind. I'd consider both Black Rock and Golden Arm noir. Where I'd draw the line is at something like Robert Wise's
Blood on the Moon
or some of Anthony Mann's later work which I've seen people try to include under the umbrella.
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sheetsadam1 — 7 months ago(August 18, 2025 07:44 PM)
Definitely watch
Riot in Cell Block 11
sometime! I know you're familiar with Don Siegel from your '70s crime film journeys and hopefully you've seen
Invasion of the Body Snatchers
as well?
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Sophienoire — 7 months ago(August 18, 2025 07:48 PM)
i have seen
Body Snatchers
, yes, but i'm not really that interested in prison movies with an all-male cast 🥱 bc there's nothing more boring than that nor am i particularly interested in the director. i've also read it's not canon noir so… that's a nah, i'm afraid
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sheetsadam1 — 7 months ago(August 18, 2025 07:59 PM)
Well, they're usually not as bad as prison movies with an all (or mostly) female cast lol. Ugh, I feel so bad for Pam Grier having had to make such ****. Her badass heroine phase was so much better. But yeah, I don't really like prison movies as a genre, just that one, Siegel's
Escape from Alcatraz
and
The Shawshank Redemption
. Sort of like
The Green Mile
too, but it's a little schmaltzy.
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Sophienoire — 7 months ago(August 18, 2025 08:10 PM)
they're usually not as bad as prison movies with an all (or mostly) female cast lol.
sir, i beg to differ!
Caged
(1950) is amazing!
and i don't like
Shawshank Redemption
at all myself, so there!
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Sophienoire — 7 months ago(August 18, 2025 07:47 AM)
see my reply in the other thread:
https://www.filmboards.com/board/p/22750124/permalink/#p22750124
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Sophienoire — 7 months ago(August 18, 2025 07:45 AM)
from those i've seen, probably…
Force of Evil
(1948) its director, Abraham Polonsky, was persecuted by McCarthy.
also:
Crossfire
(1947)
Body and Soul
(1948)
House of Strangers
(1949)
All the King's Men
(1949)
The Lawless
(1950)
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sheetsadam1 — 7 months ago(August 18, 2025 12:24 PM)
A leftist magazine in the U.S. actually did a great article on this very topic recently:
https://jacobin.com/2025/05/hollywood-blacklist-criterion-lang-dassin
"All films about crime are about capitalism because capitalism is about crime." - Abraham Polonsky
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sheetsadam1 — 7 months ago(August 18, 2025 07:36 PM)
Have you watched the Kate Winslet version? I've heard it's more faithful to the novel, but haven't watched it myself. I like the Joan Crawford version quite a bit despite the fact that it only adapted maybe half of the novel and made major changes to those portions.
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sheetsadam1 — 7 months ago(August 18, 2025 07:47 PM)
Yeah, I'm a bit reluctant to. I'm afraid it would be similar to del Toro's
Nightmare Alley
in that it's a better adaptation of the source material but completely missing the vibe that made noir so special.
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️ — 7 months ago(August 18, 2025 07:15 AM)
altho i did like del Toro's version, it's just not the same. you gotta accept that tho