"No, every president does not have a list like this."
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WarrenPeace — 4 years ago(November 18, 2021 09:59 PM)
"No, every president does not have a list like this."
I concede.
You are right.
Dumbya Bush does not.
Though Obama, Clinton and plenty of others do.
"These are Trump's accomplishments, so you're wrong when you say any of them had nothing to do with him. He and his administration (WH staff and cabinet) put in these policies."
Feel free to show me point by point how the stock markt went up just because of him.
You do know that he was riding in on the coattails of the economy which Obama had to repair from Dumbya.
And if you are so quick to give credit then you should be so quick to criticize since the economy was taking huge downturns because of Trump.
Why didn't he do anything about that?
"Find another president who did as much good (or even close) and then we'll talk."
Why bother?
I could show you a list of all of Obama's accomplishments but you will just poo-poo it and not give him credit for one thing.
It all comes down to what team you are on if you are going to like what they did or not.
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CarollnMinresota — 4 years ago(November 19, 2021 03:41 AM)
Though Obama, Clinton and plenty of others do.
Let's see them, then.
Feel free to show me point by point how the stock markt went up just because of him.
You do know that he was riding in on the coattails of the economy which Obama had to repair from Dumbya.
After the subprime mortgage crisis (Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had run amok at the encouragement of Democrats and almost totally crashed the economy) and several other factors caused the crash in 2008, the phrase "too big to fail" was invented and the federal government bailed out the banks that were involved. After things began to recover, all Obama had to do was nothing and things improved. Anything positive happened in spite of his and his cabinet's policies. No credit to Obama for that recovery.
The stock market and several other financial markers improved during the Trump years as is shown in the list. If you can show that his policies and the upturn in the economy had nothing to do with it, I'm all ears.
I won't criticize the downturn caused by Covid because China caused Covid and no president could've done better at the economy under those circumstances.
I could show you a list of all of Obama's accomplishments but you will just poo-poo it and not give him credit for one thing.
Try me. I think you're bluffing.
It all comes down to what team you are on if you are going to like what they did or not.
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WarrenPeace — 4 years ago(November 19, 2021 04:43 AM)
OK then have you ever once given Obama or any Dem president credit for anything.
Or do you only criticize them and only give credit to Repub. ones.
At least I am willing to admit that EVERY president has his faults and I will criticize and credit where I see it.
Trump and the US economy: What can he take credit for?
No Rust Belt revival
A report by the Economic Policy Institute published in August contradicted his claims, however. It found that far from reenergizing the so-called Rust Belt — former industrial areas of the northeastern US that had seen a sharp economic decline since the 1990s — more manufacturing jobs left the US than were created during Trump's first two years in office.
The Washington-based think tank wrote: "President Trump's erratic, ego-driven and inconsistent trade policies have not achieved any measurable progress, despite the newly combative rhetoric. On top of that, COVID-19 — and the administration's mismanagement of the crisis — have wiped out much of the last decade's job gains in US manufacturing."
As the president bids for a second term in the White House, he faces derision for his inconsistent response to the coronavirus pandemic. So, trailing his Democratic rival Joe Biden, Trump is playing up the economic successes of his first term.
In the first TV debate against Biden, for example, he claimed that he had "brought back" 700,000 jobs in the manufacturing sector. In realty since Trump took office, the bottom line is that 237,000 industrial jobs have been lost, according to fact-checkers at Politifact, a non-profit group.
Record-high stock market
US stock markets, he regularly boasts, have skyrocketed under his leadership, even after the initial shock of the pandemic lockdown. Since he took office in January 2017, the Dow Jones is up nearly 40% and at around 27,000 is not far from the previous high of 29,570 in February this year. The NASDAQ has more than doubled in value.
US workers making face masks
The coronavirus pandemic came at an untimely moment for Donald Trump, who's seeking reelection in November
Many economists, however, say the stock market boom began under his predecessor Barack Obama and was fueled by trillions of dollars in quantitative easing by the US Federal Reserve and stock buybacks by the likes of Apple, Microsoft and Google's parent, Alphabet. Main Street hasn't benefitted from the meteoric stock market rise as much as corporate America.
"Pre-pandemic: In terms of growth, employment gains and inflation, the US economy has performed about the same as under the Obama administration," Joel Prakken, chief US economist at IHS Markit, told DW. Asked what economic successes Trump can take credit for, he added: "Little, if any."
https://www.dw.com/en/trump-and-the-us-economy-what-can-he-take-credit-for/a-54945982
"Try me. I think you're bluffing."
Let's start with this.
OK prove me wrong that you are going to find a way to disagree with it.
President Obama took office in the middle of the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, at a time the economy was losing over 700,000 jobs a month and in the midst of what we now know was the worst 6-month period for GDP growth in over 60 years. To respond to the crisis, the President took immediate, bold, and effective action, signing the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act into law less than a month after taking office, helping to create jobs and make the investments we need to out-innovate, out-educate and out-build the competition so we can create true economic security for the middle class.
And despite claims to the contrary, these efforts were successful in preventing another Depression, and returning our economy to growth. As of January 2014, the economy has now added private sector jobs for 47 consecutive months, and a total of 8.5 million jobs has been added over that period.
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/economy/jobs/recovery-act
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bigbadwolf666 — 4 years ago(November 19, 2021 12:10 AM)
yea, I agree. He was there for four years something had to have happened. So lets list of every paper he signed. Im surprised his golf points isnt listed there or everytime he was on the news for just being on the news or all the tweets he made.
When people ask this question they ask about significant major changes which nobody could remember. If list Obama, Clinton, and now Biden the list is twice as long at least.
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Without strife, you do not advance.
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Dame Pinky For Realz — 4 years ago(November 18, 2021 09:10 PM)
Failure:
Charlottesville and George Floyd
Failure
: America's global image is in shambles
Failure:
Family separations and the deaths of migrant children
Failure:
Iran, Syria, and Afghanistan
Failure:
Replacing the Affordable Care Act (aka Obamacare)
Failure:
Impeachment
Failure:
COVID-19 pandemic
Failure:
The US economy
Failure:
Damaging democracy -
CarollnMinresota — 4 years ago(November 18, 2021 09:28 PM)
#1 Not on Trump
#2 Also not on Trump. Globalist liberal smears do not count. Nor do Twitter smears.
#3 A very complicated situation, but illegals streaming across our border create many difficulties for both the illegals and our country. "Families" were not always found to be legit. There were many child smuggling incidents and these separations had to happen to be checked out. Now, they're mostly happening unchecked.
#4 Not on Trump
#5 As you know, the ACA was not always so affordable, and it was meant as a step towards total the federal takeover of healthcare. See the VA for how that would work.
#6 Impeachment happened twice. Trump beat it twice.
#7 Your blame for Covid is misplaced. China is fully responsible and that can't be argued. They hid (and are still hiding) their responsibility. You can try to say Trump could have done things differently and or sooner, but that's simply posturing and you're apparently not willing to give him any credit for getting the pharmaceutical industry into high gear to get vaccines ready in record time?
#8 The economy was roaring along at record levels of positivity until Covid hit, but maybe you missed those items on the list. Once businesses had to deal with Covid's negative effects, what are your opinions on how the economy could have continued growing (or even stay level)?
#9 Democracy is as strong as ever. Trump did no damage whatsoever. I hope you're not considering what Twitter trolls say about it. -
