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    thylacine80 — 9 years ago(May 30, 2016 11:43 PM)

    Quarrel started as a threatening and strong character. He was mysterious, he could fight and made a strong impression on Bond.
    He was a strong ally with a lot of knowledges.
    Then, as soon as they arrive on Crab Key, the character is treated like a supertitious dumb, afraid of everything, acting like he never saw a beautiful woman (his look at Honey).
    The worst part is when Bond ask him to go and "fetch my shoes".
    I know it was 1962 and people were still ignorant about racist matters, so I'm not saying it's a "racist movie" and I adore this film, but it is still uncomfortable to watch.

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      wallacesawyer — 9 years ago(May 31, 2016 01:04 PM)

      He's still a bit of an improvement over the book. In the book it became very irritating as I was reading his dialogue because Ian Fleming wrote Quarrel as speaking broken English.
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        tonycarr — 9 years ago(June 10, 2016 05:43 AM)

        The worst one is Live and Let Die, which is where Quarrel first appears. Fleming's dialogue when Bond is in Harlem is very uncomfortable.

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            Skoony — 9 years ago(September 01, 2016 12:24 PM)

            I completely agree. The "fetch my shoes" line is what sends it over the edge. A very master-and-his-slave type moment.

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              The_Ultimate_Hippo — 9 years ago(October 09, 2016 10:34 AM)

              So if Quarrel told Bond to "fetch his shoes" would you still complain?
              How about the "3 blind black killers" murdering an innocent white woman showing no signs of mercy? Wouldn't that be a hate crime?
              "I really wish Gia and Claire had became Tanner" - Honeybeefine

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                thylacine80 — 9 years ago(October 25, 2016 12:59 AM)

                How about the "3 blind black killers" murdering an innocent white woman showing no signs of mercy? Wouldn't that be a hate crime?
                There's white bad people, dumb people, cruel people and criminals as well as black.
                So the 3 black killers didn't bother me at all.
                I'm talking about Bond acting like a master toward his slave with Quarrel, and precisely the point is we never get to see a black character talking that way to Bond.

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                  The_Ultimate_Hippo — 9 years ago(October 28, 2016 09:13 PM)

                  Uh Mr. Big's henchmen called bond a "honky", you don't get more racist than that.
                  "I really wish Gia and Claire had became Tanner" - Honeybeefine

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                    The_Ultimate_Hippo — 9 years ago(October 29, 2016 08:19 PM)

                    Plus there are white people who fetch shoes for black people and black people who fetch shoes for white people.
                    So Quarrell fetching shoes for Bond didn't bother me at all.
                    "I really wish Gia and Claire had became Tanner" - Honeybeefine

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                      super-joey — 9 years ago(December 01, 2016 06:28 PM)

                      Ugh. Must EVERY movie on IMDB have a thread accusing it of racism or sexism or homophobia or. etc. etc. etc. TIRESOME.

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                        thylacine80 — 9 years ago(December 01, 2016 11:58 PM)

                        Must EVERY movie on IMDB have a thread accusing it of racism or sexism or homophobia
                        It depends if the said movie really IS racist or homophobic.

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                          marco-47826 — 9 years ago(January 23, 2017 02:50 PM)

                          Name any. I think people are just paranoid and intolerant these days. Hence them seeing hateful comments everywhere. I was watching the movie, the othet day, and thought to myself things looked better, back then. No nazi PC police, everywhere. People lived, without overthinking everything.

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                            TAFFman — 1 year ago(May 16, 2024 03:20 AM)

                            Name any. I think people are just paranoid and intolerant these days. Hence them seeing hateful comments everywhere. I was watching the movie, the othet day, and thought to myself things looked better, back then. No nazi PC police, everywhere. People lived, without overthinking everything.
                            OK. How about this clip of Judy Garland singing a song in the film 'Everybody Sing' (1938):
                            Or maybe this song from the movie 'Wonder Bar' (1934):
                            Does any of that seem like it might be racist to you?

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                              Dalit Sangha — 1 year ago(May 16, 2024 03:30 AM)

                              The worst part is when Bond ask him to go and "fetch my shoes"
                              Honesty I was more trouble by Westhorpe in the black man face and outfit , plus you can see it he is not really the Africa mans, hana

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                                Dr Ali Tomar — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 07:32 AM)

                                Honesty I was more trouble by Westhorpe in the black man face and outfit , plus
                                you can see it he is not really the Africa mans
                                , hana
                                Buna, honesty u should become the detective, hana

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                                  Dalit Sangha — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 07:37 AM)

                                  Buna, you need fashioned makeover and retire the primart jumpers, hana

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                                    Dr Ali Tomar — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 07:38 AM)

                                    Buna, do u realised peoples have two eyebrow and not one, hana

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                                      Dalit Sangha — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 07:39 AM)

                                      Twonk!

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