LOGAN will be a better movie than Doctor Strange if…
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Marvel/DC
xenoliths — 9 years ago(October 31, 2016 09:04 AM)
Just saw Doctor Strange. It caught me by surprise. It was absolutely terrific. Truly mind blowing.
My money is still on Logan to be the highest grossing R-rated movie in history with even better audience and critic response, if & only if the whole thing about the year being set @ 2024 is utter BS.
I'm so counting on it to be BS. Please
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ForbiddenArms — 9 years ago(October 31, 2016 09:09 AM)
I don't believe in superhero fatigue, but I am kinda tired of the Marvel formula and DC isn't doing all that great at the moment. So Logan is the only movie in the genre that can give us something completely different, despite Fox inconsistencies with the franchise.
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hafabee — 9 years ago(October 31, 2016 03:29 PM)
I think that
Wonder Woman
looks pretty cool and is probably going to be a cut above your average comic book movie, everything I've seen about it looks like they're putting a real effort into crafting a fine movie, but otherwise I agree with you, I've been disappointed in the Disney Marvel catalogue, and the newer DC stuff too (since
The Dark Knight Rises
).
Logan
looks great though, I'm really looking forward to it. I'd be really surprised if
Doctor Strange
is as well crafted a movie and story as
Logan
is going to be. Oh and as for the OP's question, I think
Logan
takes place quite a ways into the future, Wolverine is absolutely burnt out (look at the muscle twitch in his hand at the beginning of the trailer, that's nerve damage from his claws popping out, which his healing factor should be normally be able to heal no problem) and Professor Xavier looks to be a hundred years old.
I love that they actually had to liberally apply aging make-up to Patrick Stewart to make him look ancient ha, that guy has barely aged a day since Star Trek The Next Generation! I think he might be a Highlander. -
xenoliths — 9 years ago(October 31, 2016 04:29 PM)
I want to like WW but as long as Zack Snyder has a hand in it, I'm not getting my hopes up. Basically, the Batman is where I see DC finally return to quality.
I hope you're right about the timeline. Everything in that red band trailer is breathtaking which is why it will be devastating if the movie is set in 2024. It's like a video game from Obsidian, absolutely fantastic but full of game breaking bugs.
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samhmd-7489 — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 05:37 AM)
I agree with you, I've been disappointed in the Disney Marvel catalogue, and the newer DC stuff too (since The Dark Knight Rises).
Too unashamed for you? Or are you still PO'ed that not everything is wrapped up in a neat little package?
Logan looks great though, I'm really looking forward to it. I'd be really surprised if Doctor Strange is as well crafted a movie and story as Logan is going to be.
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hafabee — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 11:36 AM)
Too unashamed for you? Or are you still PO'ed that not everything is wrapped up in a neat little package?
Disney's Marvel movies are too lacking in quality, they're tonally incompetent (the McMCU ruins their own tone and suspense and tension constantly with all of the cringe-worthy goofy dialogue), have poor cinematography throughout (at times atrocious) and inferior lighting (which in turn makes the 3D stuff look awful), artless story telling with no depth or allegory, and totally forgettable villains. In short they've been all around poor endeavours.
Dr Strange is actually innovative, as opposed to Logan's paint-by-numbers approach.
You've got that the wrong way around my mixed mp, confused friend. -
samhmd-7489 — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 06:49 PM)
Disney's Marvel movies are too lacking in quality, they're tonally incompetent (the McMCU ruins their own tone and suspense and tension constantly with all of the cringe-worthy goofy dialogue), have poor cinematography throughout (at times atrocious) and inferior lighting (which in turn makes the 3D stuff look awful), artless story telling with no depth or allegory, and totally forgettable villains. In short they've been all around poor endeavours.
If you're into that bankrupt "grounded" approach, enjoy people who don't act like people, despise the idea of a combined universe with no boundaries, subtle-as-a-nuke "themes" and Holocaust Exploitation, outdated cinematography, heavy-handed storytelling and the idea that the villain is the true star of the film. In short, if you're outdated and reactionary.
You'd never see an X-Man related film that bothered pointing out that not all Germans were unrepentant Nazis in WWII.
You've got that the wrong way around
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Bane39104 — 9 years ago(October 31, 2016 11:04 AM)
I doubt, that Logan become the highest grossing Rated-R movie. It will be make enough money, thats right. But more as Deadpool? I didnt think so. You should not forget, audiences prefers comicbook movies with a lot humour, and Logan will be an dark movie. I think the final Box Office will be $500-$600.
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xenoliths — 9 years ago(October 31, 2016 04:32 PM)
There is so much more going for this movie than Deadpool, and it's Jackman's last go with the character. People love a good sob story, like Titanic, and TDK trilogy proved that people also love dark CBMs.
I respect your opinion but I think Logan will make $800 mil at least.
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durandwhit30 — 9 years ago(November 01, 2016 04:41 AM)
I honestly don't think this will gross more than Origins unless the critical response is through the roof. I think people are overestimating the care the general audience has for this being Jackman's last film as Wolverine. Seems only diehard fans of the films and comics care enough to see it just because of that.
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Gandalf-the-Greyss — 9 years ago(November 01, 2016 08:20 AM)
Diehard fans of the films and comics are not the people a billion dollar studio cares about. Logan has the potential to be the most inventive comic film of 2017. From the Schindler's List inspired poster to the Outworld Western tone. Dr Strange is another MCU-Disney movie.
So far so good, the Logan trailer has gotten so much goodwill from the fans. It has been a hot topic on social media and other entertainment websites. Fox should capitalize on those factors and keep the momentum going. If they can do that, the film will be a big hit regardless of the critical response. Those were the special ingredients that made Deadpool and Suicide Squad very successful. -
That_Guy_Son — 9 years ago(November 01, 2016 10:44 AM)
The only thing people are talking about is the red band trailer with the claws through the head. Other than that it is the same as The Wolverine. Let's see Wolverine's healing factor is out of commission and is on the run with a young female and there is a dying old man from his past. Oh and he's living alone in the middle of nowhere after some tragedy, he caused, happened fairly recent.
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cjp2157 — 9 years ago(November 01, 2016 11:49 AM)
There's nothing new here. The only thing people on this board are getting excited for is an R rating and violence.
Meanwhile, few people care about blood and guts. Few people actually WANT that if that's the only difference. We've already seen violent Wolverine. unless this is more stylized than previous movies, I'm not sure what will be different other than seeing blood and guts.
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Gandalf-the-Greyss — 9 years ago(November 01, 2016 12:15 PM)
Wait until you see Dr Strange and you will finally see how old and repetitive MCU movies have become. The R Rating and violence is not the appeal of Logan. I love how they made Logan such a unique Marvel superhero film with a brutal, emotional, and serious Western tone unlike the usual formulaic Marvel films we have in the 2010s with slapstick dry humor, uninspiring plot, unrealistic colorful cinematography with the usual MCU lighthearted tone.
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Gandalf-the-Greyss — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 10:38 PM)
Dr Strange is the continuation of the Marvel-Disney formulaic movie clothing line. People like you keep fueling the Marvel flame wars. Doing it constantly is not going to affect the narrative of a potential future X-Men series that is not part of the MCU since X-Men doesn't fit in the MCU universe.
Logan is meant to be based on the Old Man Logan series. A comic book I guarantee you that MCU-Disney cannot adapt like other X-Men stories including a future Gambit movie, Cable vs Deadpool, and X-Force. All of which has nothing to do with Dr Strange.