Butthurt
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OnkelCannabia — 9 years ago(October 17, 2016 05:40 AM)
There are people like that, sure, but the higher up the ranks you get, the less likely you are to find them. A high level crime lord going after his brother because his daddy loved him more with such ridiculously overdrawn ferocity, even after said brother went through hell in prison it seems highly unlikely. Why does every villain need to be dumbed down to a single grand agenda? It doesn't have to be like that. Cottonmouth was a calculating crimelord, Mariah was a backstabbing opportunist and Diamonback? Butthurt. They already showed they can write 3 dimensional characters and then Diamondback rolls in and is all "whaaah, my daddy didn't love me, whaaaah". It just seems like such a waste.
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keekosdoctor — 9 years ago(October 17, 2016 10:12 AM)
He's not going after Luke because "Daddy loved him more."
He's going after Luke because Luke got off scot free while Willis got sent to prison, wasn't able to be there for his mother as she died, had the "Lucas" name and legacy withheld from him his whole life, and his last attempt at revenge gave Luke a wife and superpowers.
But really, can't "butthurt" be used to describe any revenge driven character? Might as well get on Khan's case for the same thing.
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luthien_tinuviel86 — 9 years ago(October 17, 2016 06:15 AM)
I agree. Mariah and Cottonmouth (in that order) actually seemed like real-life villains, the type you fear because they definitely do exist (not just Harlem; I'm from Eastern Europe and thought the whole mafia-politics combo was very very relatable). But Diamondback seemed like deux-ex-machina character, who exists only so Luke can have an arch-enemy, but everything about him felt forced: how he dedicated his whole life to destroying Luke (but not killing him or his loved ones!), how he just happens to be the only with access to technology which can take Luke down AND the only one who can get the same "enhancement" as his half-brother. The actor who plays him is good and he felt menacing though. The casting crew did a great job with all characters.
I also felt the show was dragged out and had too many subplots that were unnecessary, such as Misty Knight sleeping with Luke, then hating/being suspicious of him for no reason; police brutality (twice!) for no reason; each time from black officers who were interrogating non-criminals (Claire and the boy); the angry mob against Luke Cage (common folks hating super-powered ones is seriously one of the most over-used tropes in superhero history); Luke and Claire driving across the country for no good reason. The show could've used a little more action and not just the mindless type- Carl Lucas was an ex- cop/soldier with superpowers and supposedly very intelligent, but he appears dumber and less strategic than Daredevil, the lawyer, or Jessica Jones, the private detective. Also, 10 episodes would've been enough. -
dmcreif — 9 years ago(October 17, 2016 06:26 AM)
police brutality (twice!) for no reason; each time from black officers who were interrogating non-criminals (Claire and the boy); the angry mob against Luke Cage (common folks hating super-powered ones is seriously one of the most over-used tropes in superhero history)
That subplot WAS necessary, because it provided a reason for Mariah Dillard and Diamondback to sell the Judas rounds to the NYPD.
Luke and Claire driving across the country for no good reason
Yes there was a good reason for them to take that drive. It was to go see Dr. Burstein to treat Luke. -
luthien_tinuviel86 — 9 years ago(October 17, 2016 06:47 AM)
I disagree with that. I understand why the police feared him, but not why everyone else did too. Why was he taking the blame for police brutality? Why were the folks so supportive of the cops? Did everyone suddenly forgot why they liked him in the first place?
I understand why they went to the doctor's place, but not to his father's place. I get that he's supposed to have a flashback and figure out everything, but he could've remembered everything in New York and it would've been just as good. He was wanted for killing a cop- driving around the country is the least safest thing he could do. -
keekosdoctor — 9 years ago(October 17, 2016 10:17 AM)
No one was sure he wasn't guilty of killing that cop, or Cottonmouth, etc. As far as the community knows he's a criminal and the brutality IS his fault for not turning himself in. Plus, we see multiple examples of that NOT being the case for everyone, and the people he helped in the past still rooting for him and placing the blame on the cops themselves.
And really? How is driving around the country the LEAST safe thin to do when he's wanted for killing a cop in
New York?
His fathers' place was close, my guess is he wanted to see the man himself or at least check if he was there.
I think you're ignoring key details.
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dmcreif — 9 years ago(October 17, 2016 11:44 AM)
No one was sure he wasn't guilty of killing that cop, or Cottonmouth, etc. As far as the community knows he's a criminal and the brutality IS his fault for not turning himself in. Plus, we see multiple examples of that NOT being the case for everyone, and the people he helped in the past still rooting for him and placing the blame on the cops themselves.
And like I said, it also gave Mariah and Diamondback something to capitalize on, and subsequently sell the Judas bullets to the NYPD.