Lamia shouldn't have died that way *spoilers*
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tehck — 15 years ago(February 26, 2011 08:46 AM)
As Yvain tells Tristan, "I couldn't have done it without you." Although Lamia has said she wants the star healthy and glowing, I'm assuming that she's never tried to cut the heart out of one that wasn't bound, weakened, and dispirited. As for the "path" of the light, Yvain is evidently able to direct or control it to some extent because the only thing she harms is the evil witch. The witches' palace suffers no (more) damage. More importantly, recall that Yvain tells Tristan to close his eyes and hold tightly to her, suggesting there is some risk to him if he's not protected in this way. So there is some internal logic to the manner of Lamia's death, but such hairsplitting is sort of ridiculous in a story in which a rock wall separates a village in Victorian England from a magical domain called Stormhold where witches can turn men into goats and goats into men and stars can whisper warnings to their sister's protector but not to their sister herself. If you're looking for plot holes I suggest that the mystery of the whispering stars (as well as the unexpectedly brief distance from the hole in the wall to the witches' castle)is far bigger than a star on earth being able to burn a queen of darkness.
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sErpEnt_v — 14 years ago(June 19, 2011 01:53 PM)
It could -beautifully, I think- be interpreted as an underlying message that says:
ultimately all dark things - whether they know it or not - seek the light, even if it kills them.
I don't know, Butchie, instead.
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Live_Dream — 11 years ago(September 21, 2014 01:05 PM)
People are being too nice and forgetting about logic - to the point of forgetting about the film's own logic, by writing it off as a metaphor.
But Lamia has eaten "star heart" before and not died. Saying that the heart was too bright is like saying that, even though she's eaten, let's say, steak all her life, one steak was so delicious it killed her.
However different the film ending is from the book doesn't matter - the film is ignoring its own logic and just telling viewers to accept anything because it's a fantasy, which sucks. But as long as viewers keep accepting this, film makers will keep pulling this crap. -
adriebaby82 — 10 years ago(June 17, 2015 10:24 PM)
Ok, first off forget the book. When a piece of work changes mediums it is a whole new beast no matter how faithful it may stay to the original. Things cannot be exactly the same. Think about water and ice. Once water changes to ice you cannot treat it the same way.
Now to your first point. The witch wants the star as "glowy" as possible so why when it is at peak glowiness does it kill her?
The answer to this is quantity. The witches were only thinking in terms of a normal scale. They wanted the glowiness level to be highest but still within the normal range. I personally believe they were unaware there was even a higher level of glowiness as that of true love glowiness.
Anything can be deadly with too much.
Medication, a few pills gets rid of a headachegood thing
a whole bottle makes you OD bad thing
Water, drinking water everyday very healthygood thing
stand point blank in front of a dam as it bursts and you will probably diebad thing
Ice cream, have a bowl and it's a good snackgood thing
have the whole carton and you get a brain freeze and thunder thighsbad thing
So in conclusion, quantity of the glowiness is what killed her. It was just too much.
Now to the second point. Since Tristan was also standing in the way of the burning hot star glow so why didn't he die too?
The answer to this is similar to electricity. Yvain knows that Tristan does have the potential to be harmed, that is why she instructs him to hold on tight and close his eyes. While he is held tightly in her arms he is protected b/c he is "grounded" to her. And he has to close his eyes so he is not blinded by the light, rapped up like a douche another roner in the night, blinded by the light sorry couldn't help myself.
I'm aware your post was 5 years ago but none of the responses really seemed to answer your questions. Hope this helps.
"Destiny is a fickle b!tch" LOST -
cyberose23 — 9 years ago(June 15, 2016 08:29 AM)
Is she a star or a lightbulb?
Sorry- no electricty involved with starglow so grounding is an excuse rather than a plothole fixer haha
Definition of star:
"Stars are made of very hot gas. This gas is mostly hydrogen and helium, which are the two lightest elements. Stars shine by burning hydrogen into helium in their cores, and later in their lives create heavier elements"
Still maintain if you "burn gas" to shine- tristan "hugging the sun" should have incinerated too along with the witch. Yvaine can't "direct her heat"- she's not electrical. Or else, if they're both merely standing in her bright light- bright lights don't kill anyone, in which case both he and the witch should have survived a flare even if the witch was just blinded afterwards- you can't be "hot" for one and just potentially blinding for the other that's a writer's cheat haha -
adriebaby82 — 9 years ago(October 07, 2016 03:27 PM)
First off, sorry for the tone of my last post. I must have been in a goofy mood at the time.
Ok, to the points
Sorry- no electricty involved with starglow so grounding is an excuse rather than a plothole fixer haha
I didn't say she is electricity, I said it's similar, meaning they have the same principles but are not the same thing.
Definition of star:
"Stars are made of very hot gas. This gas is mostly hydrogen and helium, which are the two lightest elements. Stars shine by burning hydrogen into helium in their cores, and later in their lives create heavier elements"
Yes, very good! I agree that is the definition of a star ON OUR SIDE OF THE WALL. On the other side of the wall a star is a humanesque being with an unknown biological makeup. For all we know she can fart rainbows.
I'll admit I'm not stating facts. This is how I explain it to myself and it works for me. Lots of people have given you their opinions, which a lot of them fit for me too.
I think you're just bound and determined to not let your mind expand any further, which is also understandable because there is a lot to stretch the mind in all fantasy shows. Sometimes there's just that one piece of straw that breaks the camels back. I have my own instances like this for some movies.
Anyway, my point is I know I'm not going to convince you, so whatever.
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truffleshuffle03 — 9 years ago(October 14, 2016 02:12 AM)
Who says she is made up of any kind of gas? . I really don't see how placing real life into fantasy is going to do anything. THis is a fantasy movie so in this fantasy that is how the witch died. There is really no reason to try and say it could not happen because in real life it does not work like that. In this fantasy world that is how it it happens.
"Baby sister, I was born game and I intend to go out that way"