Complete disregard for their own rules for time travel.
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SenorDD — 9 years ago(October 12, 2016 09:56 PM)
They introduced the time wraiths, yet they never come after Barry or the Legends of Tomorrow no matter how many times they mess up the timeline.
Now in the Flashpoint timeline, Barry's memories started to disappear to realign with the new sequence of events, so how come that never happens in the new timeline.
And don't get me started on time remnants, those just make my brain hurt.
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spudrudder — 9 years ago(October 12, 2016 11:42 PM)
When you have multiple writers who don't really keep each other in check that tends to happen, especially in time travel stories. Doctor Who is just as guilty, but it kind of gets a pass on pure whimsy alone, I guess.
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Totemkauf — 9 years ago(October 13, 2016 02:24 PM)
The wraiths only go after speedsters, they have nothing to do with other forms of time travel (such as on Legends) . And supposedly they don't always go after speedsters, they've been shown to go after speedsters who 'didn't know what they were doing' or 'trying to destroy all but one universe'
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AgentX2014 — 9 years ago(October 13, 2016 08:27 PM)
I posted the question I'm about to ask on the arrow thread on this messege board but it fits this thread as well, so do we know that all 3 shows (arrow, flash and lot) are all going to be still in the same timeline? If they weren't crossovers would no longer make sense, but if they were that would go against the (laws? Is that the correct word?) of theoretical physics. Multiple universes are supposed to be created when (example) one Barry goes left and the other goes right and so on through every decision everyone makes everyday. Using that, when Barry created two alternate timelines by saving then unsaving his mom, then him and Eobard would be the only 2 people who were not an original part of that timeline/universe and so basically the whole cast of arrow would still be in the original timeline, but Barry would be in a place with alternate versions of the arrow cast, and well let's not even get a headache trying to think of all the multiple versions legends is creating.
My be I over explained my thinking, maybe I'm just confused because I've seen this theory explored in other shows and if I knew more about the comics maybe there is a set rule to them, but seriously is just want to know if they r still in the same timeline for both shows. -
stargazer_1682 — 9 years ago(October 13, 2016 09:06 PM)
Multiple universes are supposed to be created when (example) one Barry goes left and the other goes right and so on through every decision everyone makes everyday.
Incorrect. While The Flash hasn't been super consistent with some of it's rules for time travel, what they have regularly established is that the effects of changes to history, and the multiverse itself, are separate and independent. Causality is in effect; when Eddie Thawne died, Eobard Thawne was erased from history, creating a paradox that reopened the singularity they had just closed. When Barry saved his mom, he didn't return to a future to find another Barry - the one who grew up in that timeline - and the changes Barry made to history were having a direct effect on him, erasing his memories as those events ceased to have happened; which would not be the case if Barry, or Eobard's respective originating timelines still existed, as their own actual histories could never truly be altered.
From a narrative standpoint, it's a faulty premise, because it takes away all imperative in the story. Someone changes something in the past, and it doesn't matter, because the original, unaltered flow of history remains intact; and by all rights navigating time under such conditions should also mean being able to travel between timelines and return the timeline where the problem never occurred. It's also why the "many worlds" theory of time travel as a plot device for rebooting the Star Trek movie franchise is so dumb. Besides contradicting how time travel and the effects of changing history were typically handled in Star Trek (re: Edith Keeler had to die); it effectively removes consequence to the nature of the universe. Who cares what happens in this particular timeline, when in countless other timelines endless variations of every other possibility plays out? There's a reason fiction favors causal temporal mechanics, because there are actual stakes in the actions of the characters; plus cause and effect are pretty basic enough for most people to comprehend.
Well, that's called tyranny; and its generally frowned upon."