Forced to become Jewish?
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Catdubh — 18 years ago(September 28, 2007 01:20 PM)
have not read of Kate and Steve's courtship. I do not know the events that led to her conversion. I don't believe I ever said I have information supporting the idea that Kate was coereced into converting. I'm not sure where you got that.
from the following post, you made a day ago.
was wondering out loudin perhaps a provocative waywhether it were possible that Kate was coerced into conversion. It's a legitimate question.
I have plenty of anecdotal evidence to support my suspicion.
I am a bit confused. From your most recent reply, can I assume the
Anecdotal
evidence you possess, has nothing to do with Kate?
My bad.
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repete66211 — 18 years ago(September 28, 2007 02:13 PM)
Ah, you are right. I did say that, but I was speaking not of Kate but of my own personal experiences. (I typed that response on my phone.) I will correct my previous post. Thanks for pointing that out.
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ContinentalOp — 14 years ago(June 19, 2011 05:32 AM)
''and would have married someone of her own FAITH!''
Yeah, rightI do not think she purposely set out to marry a non-Anglican. Love or lust just happens, regardless of religion. For all you know, deep down she might want her husband to be Anglican but still loves him enough to be with him.
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ContinentalOp — 14 years ago(June 19, 2011 05:30 AM)
''That is why Steven may have wanted Kate to convert. So what is wrong with wanting your children to be raised in your own faith?''
That is not the issue here, though. Wanting is different to pressuring. I am not saying that Spielberg pressured Capshaw, or that he family did, but it is common especially with certain Jews who believe in a ridiculous idea of a ''Jewish race'' (which curiously can only be passed down via women in their belief). Jews in Europe are often Slavic and Turkic. They might have some real Semitic ancestry, but think about how little they would have by this point in time. The idea that ''Jewish'' is racial is dangerous and silly. People like Spielberg are no more racially Jewish than an English man is racially Christian. Also, mothers should not need to convert to any religion for children to be raised in it.
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Satisfaction_Guaranteed — 16 years ago(July 05, 2009 11:02 AM)
I still don't understand why the mother is required to be jewish for a child to be jewish. I thought if a person chooses to believe in some religion or philosophy they are free to do so of their own free will.
So for example if I choose to convert to judaism, but my mother is not jewish, that means I can't be jewish? But if that's not the case, and one can be jewish without having a jewish mother, and then convert later on in life, then the jewish mother rule doesn't make sense, idk.
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A_New_Hope — 14 years ago(June 19, 2011 01:04 AM)
Jews and Scientology suck balls! Stupid religions and very harmful. Oh hey Ive got this extra bit of skin, don't worry we'll cut the thing off. Yay now it looks like a mushroom! Why the hell do they circumcise? where is it that god doesn't have a foreskin? God made us in his image so why not lets just lob off part of our body
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ContinentalOp — 14 years ago(June 19, 2011 05:41 AM)
''I still don't understand why the mother is required to be jewish for a child to be jewish.''
It is just old school racism that is protected, rather than challenged, by racists and bigots who want to look non-racist by hypocritically supporting any element of Jewish intolerance. It is because Judaism and Christian have a lot of immoral messages in their ''law codes'' and dogma, which luckily many younger Jew16d0s do not follow.
''The Jewish mother rule was created so that Jewish men would have no moral obligations to any children they had with gentile women. There's no other reason behind it.''
As much as comments like this often border on anti-Semitism, I am afraid to say that you are correct.
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cajayson8301 — 14 years ago(July 23, 2011 04:16 AM)
Reading this thread has fascinated me on the grounds that this was a first I had heard of Jews requiring a Jewish mother in order to remain a part of that faith based system (prior to this conversation, all I knew about Judaism was the following: they follow the Kosher diet, celebrate Hanukkah, worship at a synagogue, attend Sabbath, circumcision, hold Bar Mitzvah). In hindsight, knowledge on the Jewish ancestry is somewhat good (re: The Holocaust, ancient homeland was in modern day Israel, multiple events in the Israeli/Palestinian feud, one lineage could be through an Ashkernazi Jew. My apologies on the misspelling, if any).
Nevertheless, a friend of mine who is of Hispanic descent practices the Jewish faith so I asked him one day if either parent had Jewish ancestry and/or was a Jew via Judaism. According to him, neither issue applied and therefore he was drawn to the religion on his own journey.
Interesting topic. Thanks all!
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couzijn — 9 years ago(July 10, 2016 11:33 PM)
I wonder why, from the many people who have changed to the religion of their spouse for the sake of marriage, over 90% are women and less than 10% are men.
I also wonder why in many religions it is more socially acceptable for a boy/man to marry 'outside the religion' than for a girl/woman to marry 'outside the religion'.
Maybe the two phenomena are somehow connected.