CobblersAwls — 9 years ago(February 02, 2017 08:43 PM)

I first noticed Nicola in a major way, only having seen her before in smaller parts, many years ago in the excellent "Touching Evil" with Robson Green as the law enforcement duo.
The "big star with bit part must be the murderer" is an unfortunate aspect in the history of drama, and is frequently cited in reviews and boards as an age-old rule. It's too bad, because that has spoiled many a good who dunnit otherwise.
Someone pointed out that in this series wih so many major actors of equal stature in the business, it has diffused that obvious feature of many dramas. Ashbourne, Bonnar, Rosie.etc. No clear single big name, but all biggish names.

CobblersAwls — 9 years ago(February 02, 2017 08:43 PM)

I first noticed Nicola in a major way, only having seen her before in smaller parts, many years ago in the excellent "Touching Evil" with Robson Green as the law enforcement duo.
The "big star with bit part must be the murderer" is an unfortunate aspect in the history of drama, and is frequently cited in reviews and boards as an age-old rule. It's too bad, because that has spoiled many a good who dunnit otherwise.
Someone pointed out that in this series wih so many major actors of equal stature in the business, it has diffused that obvious feature of many dramas. Ashbourne, Bonnar, Rosie.etc. No clear single big name, but all biggish names.

MCGarten — 10 years ago(November 19, 2015 11:12 PM)

Could it be that the son didn't like the fact that his mother was essentially "getting away with murder" and decided to take matters into his own hands?
I loved this series the dynamic between Nicola & Sanjeev was just perfect.

MCGarten — 10 years ago(November 19, 2015 11:12 PM)

Could it be that the son didn't like the fact that his mother was essentially "getting away with murder" and decided to take matters into his own hands?
I loved this series the dynamic between Nicola & Sanjeev was just perfect.

smoogster — 9 years ago(February 09, 2017 06:26 AM)

It was a bit confusing because quite a bit happened off-screen.
From what I can work out:
Ex-racist woman's mum died when she was young. Her dad sexually abused her until she ran away from home to London where she fell into an abusive relationship with a violent skinhead. At one point she broke up with him, sobered up and tried to go straight. She moved into a proper lodging and this was when she met Jimmy, the victim. Jimmy started teaching her how to read & write. Skinhead came back on the scene and she went back to her racist violent ways. She found out Jimmy had 50 pounds (a lot of money in those days, equivalent to about 400 pounds today) and her & her skinhead bf went round and beat Jimmy up & stole it.
This put everything else into motion which culminated in Jimmy's death. Jimmy had borrowed the money from the gangsters for his gfs abortion. But on losing the money, the gangsters sent round their enforcer (the now politician) who hamnered a nail through Jimmy's wrist for non-payment. Jimmy stole the spyder car to try to hock off but no-one would touch it because it was rare and so obviously stolen. Jimmy had to go back to whoring to raise the now 100 pounds: 50 pounds for the abortion & 50 for the gangsters (likely a lot more as gangsters don't tend to offer low interest rates on their lendings) which led him to calling up cripple guy which led him to getting his head bashed in by crazy wife.
Ex-racist's phone number in Jimmy's diary was her landladys number for when Jimmy would go round to teach her reading & writing. This also showed she wasn't truly racist, just in a very abusive relationship with a racist.
Jimmy did some odd jobs for the Eastend crime family. This was why he had the high-ranking politician's name and number.
Jimmy's mum was Irish which of course meant she was extremely religious and which is why Jimmy went to church occasionally (the dirty old goat of a priest said at one point Jimmy only went to make his mum happy). This is why he had the priest's number.
He had the cripple's number because the cripple was a regular of Jimmy wheneverJimmy whored himself out as a Rentboy when he needed money.
Jo-Jo's number was there of course because she was Jimmy's gf.
I think that's all the numbers.
I don't really get why the son was so mean to his mother in the final episode. Was that ever explained? He suddenly snaps at her just before the police arrest her and his next scene, he's being a sadistic beep to her in the Rest Home. That was such an unpleasant scene. The way he smiled at her when he said, 'me again' then started tormenting her was really scary. I hope that never happens to me!

smoogster — 9 years ago(February 09, 2017 06:26 AM)

It was a bit confusing because quite a bit happened off-screen.
From what I can work out:
Ex-racist woman's mum died when she was young. Her dad sexually abused her until she ran away from home to London where she fell into an abusive relationship with a violent skinhead. At one point she broke up with him, sobered up and tried to go straight. She moved into a proper lodging and this was when she met Jimmy, the victim. Jimmy started teaching her how to read & write. Skinhead came back on the scene and she went back to her racist violent ways. She found out Jimmy had 50 pounds (a lot of money in those days, equivalent to about 400 pounds today) and her & her skinhead bf went round and beat Jimmy up & stole it.
This put everything else into motion which culminated in Jimmy's death. Jimmy had borrowed the money from the gangsters for his gfs abortion. But on losing the money, the gangsters sent round their enforcer (the now politician) who hamnered a nail through Jimmy's wrist for non-payment. Jimmy stole the spyder car to try to hock off but no-one would touch it because it was rare and so obviously stolen. Jimmy had to go back to whoring to raise the now 100 pounds: 50 pounds for the abortion & 50 for the gangsters (likely a lot more as gangsters don't tend to offer low interest rates on their lendings) which led him to calling up cripple guy which led him to getting his head bashed in by crazy wife.
Ex-racist's phone number in Jimmy's diary was her landladys number for when Jimmy would go round to teach her reading & writing. This also showed she wasn't truly racist, just in a very abusive relationship with a racist.
Jimmy did some odd jobs for the Eastend crime family. This was why he had the high-ranking politician's name and number.
Jimmy's mum was Irish which of course meant she was extremely religious and which is why Jimmy went to church occasionally (the dirty old goat of a priest said at one point Jimmy only went to make his mum happy). This is why he had the priest's number.
He had the cripple's number because the cripple was a regular of Jimmy wheneverJimmy whored himself out as a Rentboy when he needed money.
Jo-Jo's number was there of course because she was Jimmy's gf.
I think that's all the numbers.
I don't really get why the son was so mean to his mother in the final episode. Was that ever explained? He suddenly snaps at her just before the police arrest her and his next scene, he's being a sadistic beep to her in the Rest Home. That was such an unpleasant scene. The way he smiled at her when he said, 'me again' then started tormenting her was really scary. I hope that never happens to me!

caviar1234 — 9 years ago(February 09, 2017 12:03 PM)

I have a feeling that Sara's father might be the teacher who abused the victim. So my bet is still on her.

caviar1234 — 9 years ago(February 09, 2017 12:03 PM)

I have a feeling that Sara's father might be the teacher who abused the victim. So my bet is still on her.

debbieblackman17 — 9 years ago(February 09, 2017 04:55 PM)

I know. I'm really going to miss them until next year (hopefully)
I wish they could be on every week

debbieblackman17 — 9 years ago(February 09, 2017 04:55 PM)

I know. I'm really going to miss them until next year (hopefully)
I wish they could be on every week

debbieblackman17 — 9 years ago(February 09, 2017 05:02 PM)

Amused me because I just realised that Holly Aird is in this series too LOL

debbieblackman17 — 9 years ago(February 09, 2017 05:02 PM)

Amused me because I just realised that Holly Aird is in this series too LOL

Izzyennygood — 9 years ago(February 10, 2017 11:04 AM)

I know that !
Too late to die Young

Izzyennygood — 9 years ago(February 10, 2017 11:04 AM)

I know that !
Too late to die Young

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meira-hand — 9 years ago(February 10, 2017 02:11 PM)

Stellan Skarsgard certainly agreed with you in River

meira-hand — 9 years ago(February 10, 2017 02:11 PM)

Stellan Skarsgard certainly agreed with you in River

charliebooers — 9 years ago(February 11, 2017 03:21 PM)

Yeah that's what was suggested - Colin killed Marion's dad and made it look like suicide, Marion killed David and Sara killed Colin's abuser but a body was never found on that one I think they said.

charliebooers — 9 years ago(February 11, 2017 03:21 PM)

Yeah that's what was suggested - Colin killed Marion's dad and made it look like suicide, Marion killed David and Sara killed Colin's abuser but a body was never found on that one I think they said.