Technically her husband is gay, but is he?
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ToddyEnglish — 18 years ago(October 25, 2007 04:35 PM)
If you want to be technically about then you are not really femaleWhy? Because your penis is turned outside in. Technically, a vagina is just an inverted penis and vice versa.
All fetuses start off female until a Y chromosome is introduced.
So, let's keep it consistent. If Candis is a man then so are you. And if Candis is not a woman then neither are you.
So, her husband is not gay because what is before him is a woman.
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BStruthandlogic — 18 years ago(October 26, 2007 11:25 AM)
But she was in the process of gender reassignment so does that really make him gay or just someone in love?
How many times have you been in a transitional phase when you met someone and fell in love? Just because you weren't the person you wanted to be when you met them and fell in love, does that make you less of a person?
I think he fell in love with whom he fell in love with. She is a woman now so he is straight.
I think most men would find her attractive if they saw her walking down the street and knew nothing about her. That wouldn't make them gay, now would it?
Remember Tula? She was a Bond girl. Until people "outed" her nobody knew the difference, nor did they care. They just thought "Well done!" -
BStruthandlogic — 18 years ago(October 27, 2007 10:00 AM)
I don't think that really matters, Don.
This is going to be a bit sexually graphic and I apologize ahead of time for anyone who is offended but his penis is penetrating a vagina, not an anus and a penis is not penetrating his anus.
Therefore, he isn't gay.
Even if he had dated a transgender before, what was he penetrating and what was he attracted to?
How many men are attracted to a MUSCULAR or HAIRY woman? How many men are attracted to a woman with a deep voice? Does this make them gay?
Of course not!
I sorta understand where you are going with this but I have to disagree with you on that one.
I think this just who he loves and it doesn't make him gay because she is a woman now.
Furthermore, people keep talking about how she still had a penis when they dated. When you first look at her, all you see is a woman, unless she is walking around naked then you see that she has a penis. What was he attracted to first? Her face and feminine features or her penis?
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DonNova — 18 years ago(October 27, 2007 11:03 AM)
"This is going to be a bit sexually graphic and I apologize ahead of time for anyone who is offended but his penis is penetrating a vagina, not an anus and a penis is not penetrating his anus.
Therefore, he isn't gay."
If this is true, then oral sex is not sex either, and whether or not it is a guy or girl doing the deed, it doesn't matter because it all feels the same if you close your eyes.
I think I saw an interview with Candis Cayne and it said they met in like 1997 I think, and she didn't get her operation til like 2001, so I'm fairly confident they were having intercourse before the operation, which means he was penetrating something that did not resemble a vagina.
"How many men are attracted to a MUSCULAR or HAIRY woman? How many men are attracted to a woman with a deep voice? Does this make them gay?
b68Of course not!"
This is very contradictory to what you're saying. You said that Candis' boyfriend is straight because she LOOKS like a woman. This goes against said statement because then these men WOULD be gay.
A good point is brought up though. If a man is attracted to women with masculine features such as a deep voice, hairy, big muscles (A female body builder is a good example minus the hair, and some of them look like guys and don't have breasts, but pecks) then I do believe that his sexuality can be questionable. It's just like seeing a transgender like Candis, it might make him straight because they look like a woman, but I don't know, I don't think anybody could actually know, it's just a matter of one's opinion. -
BStruthandlogic — 18 years ago(October 28, 2007 11:19 AM)
According to Bill Clinton and several people, it isn't. LOL
But seriously, we all know that oral sex is sex. However, he did not have sex with her first and then met her.
He met her first and probably had sex with her later. Most transsexuals don't have sex with a man right away. They want to make sure they can trust him enough to let them know the transition they are going through.
It is like a woman who has had a mastectomy or a man who has had a testicle removed. You don't just put something like that on a person's lap right away. You get to know the person and when you feel comfortable or start getting more intimate with the person, you let them know that you have had something removed or are in the process of having something removed. Up until that point, they do not know any real intimate details about that other person's body and can only see what the other person allows you to see.
What was the first thing he saw? It wasn't her penis. It was her. She is pretty. He was attracted to what he perceived to be a woman. She looks like a woman and acts like one. This is what he sees-A WOMAN. In his mind, he doesn't see a man who looks like a woman. He doesn't see a woman who looks like a man, either. He sees a woman that looks like a woman. While it is true that the mind can play tricks on you, this is what he sees.
I'm sorry for causing the missunderstanding regarding what I meant by my statement about men who are attracted to women with masculine features such as a deep voice or a muscular body.
If the men are attracted to her masculine features but still think she is a woman, then they are not gay. That makes them attracted to a woman with masculine features. IF the men are attracted to her masculine features and think she is a man, then he is gay.
When you look at Candis, you are looking at what appears to be a beautiful and very feminine woman.
If he wanted a man, then he would have left her after her surgery. A homosexual male needs and wants the penis. A homosexual female wants a vagina with the occasional dildo if she has bisexual tendencies.
He is married to a post operative transsexual. In his eyes, she is a woman. He is married to a woman. Remember, gay marriage is not allowed in several states. If he were gay, then he couldn't be married to her.
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DonNova — 18 years ago(October 31, 2007 02:23 AM)
Yeah but it's to bad nobody can answer the question of whether or not he has dated transgenders in the past. If he has dated transgenders in the past, then this makes him gay, if he hasn't then who knows. I've stated this before, but I know this obvious point will be overlooked again because it is most valid and negates all comments that say he is not gay.
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cosmogirl1002 — 18 years ago(October 31, 2007 10:09 AM)
" but his penis is penetrating a vagina"
Not true. His penis is not penetrating a vagina, it's a manufactured piece of skin that was formerly known as a penis shpaed into something that resembles a vagina. He is gay because "candis" is a man. -
DonNova — 18 years ago(November 05, 2007 08:31 AM)
First off, I'd like to say that by no way am I agreeing with Midnight, because I know she is a biggot, but I would like to say this:
Vagina- The passage leading from the opening of the vulva to the cervix of the uterus in female mammals.
That is exactly what it says at dictionary.com about that. I personally don't think a person is gay if they happen to fall in love with someone the same sex as them and it is the first and last person they fall in love with of the same sex.
Like in Brokeback Mountain, I didn't think Heath Ledger's character was gay, I think he was in love with Gyllenhall's character for his inner qualities, especially since Ledger never had any sexual relations with another man except for Jake. But I do think that Gyllenhall was gay since he was having flings with other men.
Pretty much, being homosexual and heterosexual is all about attraction to biological and physical characteristics of a person, and has nothing to do with the inner qualities of an individual. -
cosmogirl1002 — 18 years ago(November 06, 2007 10:53 AM)
"because I know she is a biggot"
That is funny to me. You say I am a biggot because I speak the truth and you can't handle it so you label me a biggotROFLMAO. That is a way to escape the truth and reality because you and others like you refuse to accept it. He never had nor does he now have a vagina. As I stated it is manufactured and fake therefore it is NOT a vagina. Especially when you use the dictionary's explanation. He doesn't have a cervixlol. You are either born with one or you don't have onePERIOD!!!