the two F@#$ing hospitals should be sued…
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brandon_harwell — 21 years ago(March 12, 2005 11:42 AM)
The point is PNEUMONIA IS NOT SOMETHING YOUNG PEOPLE COMMONLY DIE FROM. It's not a "commonly fatal disease" like cancer or AIDS. Until something comes out saying she either had surgery or a serious pre-existing condition, we can safely assume there weren't any. People who knew her vouched for her health even a week before she died, and unless again there is proof to the contrary, we can safely believe them. They have no reason to lie.
The crap you spout is an insult to clear-thinking people everywhere. The facts don't lie, though. Otherwise healthy young people rarely if ever die from pneumonia. Unless the doctors are incompetent and don't catch it. I know damn well how stupid doctors can be because when my grandfather had a stroke they diagnosed him with a freaking ear infection! I'm a better doctor than that! I've had a hundred ear infections in my time and the symptoms weren't even close. All the same pneumonia is EASY TO DIAGNOSE. The doctors were simply lazy and didn't care.
Not only should they be sued for every penny they need to be behind bars for this. This is what is commonly called groos negligence. It's akin to drinking and driving and killing someone and should be punished all the same.
She should not have died, not this young, not from this. Young people don't die this way in this country. -
jumpyshoe — 21 years ago(March 13, 2005 02:36 PM)
"Young people don't die this way in this country"? Where did this perceived invincibility come from? People die from unknown causes at any given time. I guess you're too hung up on finding someone to lynch than to stop and think that MAYBE she was just on the short end of the fate-stick. Not all unfortunate events are due to "groos" negligence; do you immediately assume that it was the firefighters' fault because they failed to rescue someone from a burning building? The life-saving community is dwindling because of the constant attacks of people with your line of thinking; every year, there are fewer and fewer health care providers, due to more and more legal tape and lawsuits.
"Otherwise healthy young people rarely if ever die from pneumonia."
Sowhat's stopping her from being in that small margin that DO die from pneumonia?
Even if, in that worse case scenario, every one of the health care providers at the three hospitals were "simply lazy and [don't] care", do you really think that warrants the crucifixion of those doctors? If doctors didn't care about who they were treating, they wouldn't have sacrificed at least 8 years of their youth to become physicians. Doctors make mistakes, and, like most people, they learn from them.
And brandon_harwell? The crap you spout is an insult to everyone who has dedicated their lives to saving others. -
WILSON702 — 21 years ago(March 11, 2005 06:39 PM)
i looked this information up on the internet - sepsis is caused by a number of things
Who is at risk for sepsis?
Severe sepsis affects people OF ALL AGES, whether they are HEALTHY OR CHRONICALLY ILL. But certain patients are predisposed to developing severe sepsis. Screening these at-risk patients is highly recommended to diagnose and treat the condition early.
Patients at risk of developing severe sepsis
Screening of the following at-risk patient types receiving anti-infective therapy and organ support can aid in early diagnosis of severe sepsis:
All critically ill patients
Severe CAP (community-acquired PNEUMONIA)
Intra-abdominal surgery
Meningitis
Chronic diseases (diabetes, heart failure, chronic renal failure, and COPD)
Compromised immune status (HIV/AIDS, use of cytotoxic and immunosuppressive agents, malignant neoplasms, and alcoholism)
Cellulitis
Urinary tract infection
800,000 SINCE 2001 HAVE DIED FROM SEPSIS - I GUESS IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS - MAYBE IF THE DOCTORS WOULD HAVE GIVEN HER SOMETHING IT WOULD HAVE HELPED BUT MAYBE NOT -
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daydreambeliever512 — 21 years ago(March 11, 2005 10:27 PM)
I am sure that all of you people who are all like "it happens" wouldn't be saying that if it was someone you loved and cared about.
Yes, people do die everyday, and yes, because she was somewhat in the spotlight people are going to talk about it, but that still doesn't mean that her family isn't hurting. It's not what anyone else thinks or talks about, it's the pain that the family is feeling is all that matters. Not because she was an actress, but because she was a person that probably many people loved. -
RealDraken — 21 years ago(March 12, 2005 01:18 AM)
It's quite funny to read posts like these from people who don't have a friggin clue. There are several different types of pneumonia and many different bacteria that can cause it. This means that sometimes one antibiotic which works on some pneumonias doesn't work on others. You can even have viral and fungal pneumonias and then all the antibiotics in the world won't do a god damn thing. Some pneumonias progress so rapidly that it's too late to do anything when people come to the hospital. Others manifest themselves with just common cold symptoms until it's also5b4 too late. And finally some people only go to the hospital when they're deathly ill.
You people are the morons, spouting off about things you haven't got the slightest idea of.
I don't know what kind of pneumonia she died of, or if some doctors didn't do their job, but the fact that she went to 3 hospitals before they figured out what was wrong, suggests that it was NOT easily diagnosed. Unlike what some people here think, doctors aren't interested in killing their patients. Modern medicine isn't perfect by far, and there are sadly plenty of things which it can't do anything about. It's just not as simple as getting your car to a garage and having it fixed by a mechanic.
Many times people die, even though every treatment and procedure that can be done to treat the disease is performed. It's tragic, but it's not anybody's fault.
This thing you americans have about suing everybody whenever something happens that you don't want to happen is insane. Do you know that most doctors can't help people who fall over with a heart attack in the street, because the family sues them when CPR doesn't work? Again it's like people think that if you die, it must be because someone did something wrong. beep happens, and you are not immortal.
Deal with it.
PS: I'm not associated with any of the hospitals involved. -
WIDI96 — 21 years ago(March 12, 2005 10:18 AM)
Okay, so those who are recommending suing - you have seen her medical charts? You know what she complained of, know what the chest x-rays look like, know what the lab results show, know what the doctors diagnosed her with and what they prescribed for her5b4. Okay, well, if you have seen all of that and have the medical expertise to determine they screwed up - go ahead, push for them to sue. Otherwise, maybe you should let those who know more about it decide. I have known of young people who were ill and refused to go to the doctor until they were very ill. The doctor told the young man to get to the hospital immediately and even offered to have an ambulance transport him. The guy knew he was young and didn't think it would be that serious. It was over 8 hrs later before he showed up at an ER. He was there less than thirty minutes when he coded and died.
Also, those talking about the lawsuit limitations. Do you realize that if we don't make these limitations that we won't have any drs left. They are being charged around $80,000 a year in Malpractice Insurance, some even more than that, depending on their specialty. I am fairly split on how I feel about it though. I understand in our society that it is becoming a necessity because of the millions of frivilous lawsuits, but on the other hand, if a doctor truly screws up (i.e. leaving the scissors in a patients abdomen after surgery) they deserve to sue and recieve large amounts of money. The judges need a little more sense and medical knowledge and throw out more of these frivilous lawsuits. -
otterbaby — 21 years ago(March 13, 2005 03:38 PM)
This pisses me off, too. She was a good actress and will forever be remembered for the volleyball scene.
My question is how in the hell does a 30 year old woman die of pneumonia in this day and age???!!!!! Explain that one to me!
Natalie
"Parfaits just might be the best damn thing on Earth!" Donkey from shrek -
jinjos — 21 years ago(March 13, 2005 08:25 PM)
Ok, you all need to settle the beep down.
First, yes. It's sad that she died. It's sad that she was a young b68and beautiful talented woman who died. Really, it is.
Now who's the beep idiot that thinks doctors, nurses, the whole lot, is full of crap? Are you joking you retard? Chances are that one of those "morons" saved a family member's life. Do you know the kind of crap they go through every day. sometimes working over 20 hours a day, no sleep, and they get beep from people like you calling them idiots and morons?
It's really sad that she died ok. I don't want to hear that "the world has been robbed of one of the greatest actresses ever" and "i was a big fan". beep dude, you didn't even know it was her until you read the little blurb on CNN that said she was the girl in Meet the Parents that got hit in the nose with a volleyball(Funny shiznit though, I'll tell ya).
Grow up. People die in this day and age and can't be brought back. One of your comments about how "somebody so young could die of THAT in this century is blasphemy" is like saying "somebody going down to borders to actually buy a cd is blasphemy". Pull your head out of your ass. -
lukaszkurek — 21 years ago(March 13, 2005 09:45 PM)
The hospital really should be sued so they are even less prepared for emergencies. Let's give get the people who we depend on to live even madder. And they still go and save us. These guys are great. Sure doctors aren't perfect but come on: "Judge not lest ye be judged". I know it's from the bible, but it works in everyday life. The truth is that you'll forget this in a couple of weeks. It just really makes me angry that a celebrity has to have a problem for it to become important. Thousands of children die every day and society doesn't think twice. But when some girl who was in a scene in a bad (save DeNiro and Stiller) movie, dies it's a tragedy. It all comes back to the quote. Give a damn yourself before you accuse a caring professional of not doing so.
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goldmember174 — 21 years ago(March 15, 2005 01:47 PM)
Agreed!!! It's scary that any medical professional would be so stupid as to misdiagnose a potentially deadly illness such as pneumonia. You all have a great idea. Nicole DeHuff's family should sue for malpractice.