is he?
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DJ-Chojin — 18 years ago(March 03, 2008 12:00 PM)
Einstein was jewish he escaped nazi germany i think and yes hawkins an atheist like many science people you need an open mind and not be tied to religion.
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phonenumberofthebeast — 18 years ago(March 06, 2008 02:43 AM)
I think he is an atheist, but he has put on an agnostic face every now and again, particularly when he talks about "knowing the mind of God."
Personally I've always considered agnosticism to be the best position as regards a deity, since science can only study the universe, and any creator deity would, by definition, exist outside it. Still, whatever floats your boat.
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DJ-Chojin — 18 years ago(March 21, 2008 04:26 AM)
ok this is gona piss ppl of apologies in advance
you cant beleve that god created man and god created the earth adam and eve ect being a scientist.
ok not all religios ppl beleve that and a lot of preists call it a creation myth but theres a lot out there take the bible as the word of god.
while i was in uni i went to a creation talk by some american priest in a church to get a look at the other side of creation and so many beleve the god created the world adam and eve thing and prehistoric monsters didnt happen ect.
we know the bible is cut into 2 parts old and new,
old was made because the babolonian ppl asked why are we here why does this happen where did we come from so the law makers serched the known world and stole bits from other religions and made up stuff and took things from history and created the old bible.
and the new is a heavely edited changed book to the original that was writen after jesus died the roman boss guy took the original and took out lots and changed things to his law and made rome ch5b4ristian. he was a very clever man.
so jesus was real and some stuf in the both books are real in a historical context altho some things are way out in a historical time line.
i dont belive in god myself what god whould let all the beep happening in the world happen famine sicknesses that kill millions of ppl peodofiles rapists murderers i could go on for ever but he does nothing about it so he dont exsist.
did we invade iraq afganistan in the name of religion or to camp on the edge of iran?
the bible says jesus was the son of god created by imaculet conception.
i think that was an changed bit because at the time you cant have sex in a bible as its a sin so they cooked up the son of god bit and imaculet conception when in realety he was a prophet.
then they built this whole sone of god story
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surGeonGG — 17 years ago(July 10, 2008 07:24 PM)
- Yes, he's an atheist.
- Einstein was a deist I believe (Jewish by race).
- Agnosticism is not a position on the existence of deities, it is a position on whether or not you can know anything for sure. What you refer to as agnosticism is actually weak atheism.
Weak atheism = not believing there's a god
Strong atheism = Believing there is no god
Subtle difference - People who believe in god are being irrational.
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tk_2003 — 17 years ago(December 07, 2008 06:14 AM)
themaki19 (Fri Mar 21 2008 04:26:56)
while i was in uni i went to a creation talk by some american priest in a church to get a look at the other side of creation and so many beleve the god created the world adam and eve thing and prehistoric monsters didnt happen ect.
Not everyone interprets the Bible in the same way I'm guessing by "prehistoric monsters," you mean dinosaurs. I've never known any Christian (I haven't been able to have these discussions with people of other religions) that doesn't think there were dinosaurs. Personally, I think they were there, they just weren't fully documented. The Bible does talk about creatures that were not like regular animals.
i dont belive in god myself what god whould let all the beep happening in the world happen famine sicknesses that kill millions of ppl peodofiles rapists murderers i could go on for ever but he does nothing about it so he dont exsist.
did we invade iraq afganistan in the name of religion or to camp on the edge of iran?
People have free will, God doesn't control people. God may have signs or something, but he can't just stop you in your tracks.
the bible says jesus was the son of god created by imaculet conception.
i think that was an changed bit because at the time you cant have sex in a bible as its a sin so they cooked up the son of god bit and imaculet conception when in realety he was a prophet.
then they built this whole sone of god story
lol It was not a sin to have sex Mary and Joseph were (technically) a married couple. If you're married, it's not a sin to have sex with your spouse. Why would they have hidden that?
I found this on a website:
"While in Bethlehem and shortly before Jesus' birth, it appears Joseph and Mary were married. I say this based on Matthew's account. At the point of Matthew 1: 18, Joseph had not taken Mary to live with him. However, in verse 24 we read, "and took unto him his wife."
Most scholars believe verse 24 is saying that Mary became Joseph's wife in the legal sense of the word, at that point. "And took unto him his wife" was before Jesus' birth (Matt. 1: 24, 25)."
And, in my opinion, I don't think as a scientist, you would HAVE to be athiest. I think the theory of evolution is, just as it states, a theory. Just the same as some people believe religion is not a fact.
I'm a Christian. I'm not a hardcore Bible Thumper or Hell, fire and brimstone person by ANY means. lol I just feel like sometimes people who believe in God are held to be one specific way. I'm not saying you believe that they are one way, but I like to still share my opinion with people.
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DJ-Chojin — 17 years ago(December 07, 2008 11:47 AM)
I agree that the bible gets interpreted in many ways, just like the quran does.
but a fair few do beleve the old testament to be real and not babalonian creation myth adapted from other creation myths from other cultures.
I do beleve in Jesus but not as the son of god,i think he was a prophet, what i ment on my other post was Mary was a virgin and weather or not she was maried to joseph she had a child, i just dont beleve this imaculet conception story,if she was maried to joseph was their marage sex less,
the new testement was writen by a roman the way he wanted it, and i think he made mary a virgin and added this imaculet conception story and made jesus the son of god, i also think if jesus said he was the son of god he never ment it literaly i think he was saying we are all the children of god that`s how he was the son of god not through imaculet conception.
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tk_2003 — 17 years ago(December 07, 2008 12:24 PM)
I've never really heard it put that way. That's an interesting way of looking at it.
I'm not entirely knowledgable of the Bible since I've only recently began studying out of it. But it was nice to talk to you about what I do know. lol
(I also thank you for not getting irrate, like most people tend to do lol)
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DJ-Chojin — 17 years ago(December 07, 2008 12:49 PM)
i know people get so moody. there was a BBC comisiond series about rome and one was about the emporer who comisiond the writing of the new testement as a way of controling the christians.
Aparantly christianity was becoming an incresing problem and they wernt listning to the emporer so he had to adapt so he became christian wrote what he wanted and comisiond people to write it, that way his laws would be in the book and the christians would listen to the laws
Ancient Rome: The Rise and Fall of an Empire the series was called it was a docudrama based on true accounts and new found infomation ect.
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