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Wht Doesn't He Put His Pen Where His Mouth Is?

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    miktal-1 — 15 years ago(July 15, 2010 11:38 PM)

    Mark has given all manor of stick to movies over the years and he appears to know exactly what would have made those movies better.
    Well.. I've got a cb68hallenge for Mark. Why doesn't he get off his behind and write a movie, a horror movie, instead of criticising people who are actually creative enough to have done so
    Firslty, Mark doesnt "give stick", he like everyone else is entitled to an opinion (similar to the one you are giving now).
    Secondly, everyone whos met or listens to Mark, knows that his passion comes from being a movie fan and NOT from being a journalist who happens to write about movies. Lastly, as for your challenge, I think you should grow up a little bitand then a little more, because if youre saying that you cant criticise something unless you are actually doing it yourself, or can do it yourself, then I guess you are typing this from the warmth of your mothers bosom, and her tit is still in your mouth.
    "Come on, Doc. We`re not talking about a band-aid or a tube a Ungentine"

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      keithmoonhangover — 15 years ago(July 16, 2010 10:06 AM)

      Firstly, you can state your opinion with bringing my mother into this.
      I've heard Mark say "All the people associated with the movie should serve custodial sentences"
      Is that not stick? Sounds like it to me.
      If his passion is being a movie fan then why doesn't he have a go at creating one?

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        hellblazer-1 — 15 years ago(July 18, 2010 05:58 AM)

        "Film critics know the way, but can't drive"
        But seriously, on one level I agree with you. Stephen Fry had a number of valid points with regard to any form of criticism.
        HOWEVER, on many other levels, your argument is completely redundant.
        i) Taken to its logical extreme, you believe anyone who hasn't made a film cannot have an opinion on a film (or any other medium for that matter).
        ii) Just because you've made a film, doesn't mean you're opinion is more valid.
        iii) Kermode's love of horror since the 70s and his vast knowledge on the subject gives him far more authority on the subject.
        iv) The vast majority of mainstream movies themselves are as creative as a Big Mac. So while true independent movies made for the love of the story on a shoestring budget by a dedicated crew deserve admiration, the Pirates, Sex and the City's, Transformers and Torture Porn are nothing more that exploitation, formulated to attract the lowest common denominator. If they turn out to be a decent film, great! If not, they deserve the rant.
        v) Kermode is the one-eyed man in the land of the blind. Along with Kim Newman. It is pretty well known that many critics can't be trusted - they or their employers may have been schmoozed by the production company.
        vi) What if you don't like their film? Will your opinion of their opinion change? I trust Roger Ebert but his scripts for Russ Meyer's films weren't exactly Casablanca. Kim Newman has written some pretty good fiction. Joe Queenen is pretty entertaining as well. And Peter Bradshaw's reviews will always be suspect because he co-wrote one of the worst sitcoms ever. And without shame, he gave a 4-star review to his co-writer's feature debut.
        vii) Kermode himself has turned film criticism into an entertainment of its own, hence the growing popularity and respect he gets from the industry. And what other film critic gets their own autobiography? Would you want to read Paul Ross's book about how great the latest Hollywood blockbuster is and how much the stars gave him access to interviews? I've read Kermode's book and it's very enjoyable - would make a fun comedy drama.

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          JukeEarly — 15 years ago(August 21, 2010 11:25 AM)

          Right or wrong - Dr. Kermode is actually doing his job. Why don't you write a treatment, attempt to get an agent & finish the actual screenplay while waiting to hear. It is not so easily accomplished. While Kermode might have contacts we don't, it is still no s5b4ure thing, his name on the work might even be an impediment. Having done some small time in the entertainment field, I worked with a guy who had an Academy Award (non-actor). At times it seemed people enjoyed having his hat in the ring for a project so they could boost their own importance & seemingly enjoyed rejecting him - which happened more often than not.
          BTW the way, one spells the word - manner. Unless you meant a stately house? have you got your first page done yet? There is a free app Celtx you can use for screenwriting.

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            CharteredStreets — 15 years ago(November 01, 2010 06:28 AM)

            You don't need to be able to lay an egg to say if it tastes good.
            If I have to tell you again, we're gonna take it outside and I'm gonna show you what it's like!

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              terry_desmond — 15 years ago(November 01, 2010 04:43 PM)

              Why doesn't Jeremy Clarkson get off his arse, put his money where his mouth is, and make a car. He has enough money to do a concept car!
              "I do not regret this Michelle, but I do however rue and lament it" facebook.com/terry.desmond

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                mattjegan — 14 years ago(July 20, 2011 02:33 AM)

                He probably couldn't write a screenplay if he tried. It's easy to criticise an artform, harder to participate in it. Like all these food critics we see on television nowadays - have you ever seen them actually COOK anything halfway decent in the kitchen? But who knows, perhaps Kermode isn't interested in writing films.

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                  lizandrich — 14 years ago(July 20, 2011 09:01 AM)

                  I think he alludes to it in his book. He said, if I remember correc1908tly, he would have no idea to how to diect a film. Could see him doing or adapting a screenplay, though.
                  She's a man, it's a sled, he's dead already.

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                      Ponzer — 14 years ago(July 25, 2011 04:35 AM)

                      Why don't you put your pen where your mouth is and start a career as a professional movie reviewer and do it better than Kermode?
                      That's about as retarded as your argument is.
                      With your logic, you have no right to complain at the restaurant if the food taste like sheit but you can't cook yourself. You have no right to complain to the doctor who mistreats you cause you don't have a clue what he did wrong. You have no right to complain when your car mechanic botches your car, cause you couldn't do a better job yourself?
                      With your logic, Uwe Bolls opinion have more value than Kermodes
                      "Love keeps her in the air when she oughta fall down. Makes her home."

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                          chivers677 — 14 years ago(March 18, 2012 01:43 PM)

                          Just to be clear I do like reading Mark's reviews and I do respect him as a film reviewer. However I do think he should just stick to reviewing films that aren't totally out of his league, I understand being a film critic you have to be open minded and that your fine with coming out of your comfort zone and watching a film you wouldn't normally watch. However how can you expect a die hard fan of The Exorcist to find a light-hearted chick flick like Bride Wars entertaining and truely brilliant? (Yes, he did make a comment about Bride Wars) I mean for instance the film's target audience is pre-teens and a majority of them are girls. Come on, it's like asking a fan of the Death Wish films to watch The Princess Diaries and enjoy it throughout then to give it praise for being so extraordinaire. They're two completely different films altogether, does he really expect to enjoy them as much as The Exorcist?
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                            Paddy_Jony — 12 years ago(July 07, 2013 10:59 PM)

                            Hmm , prob coz of the old saying "stick to what yer good at". Being a film critic for so long , and having a sense of dignity , he wouldnt do it , or it would probably take him decades to even finish a script with all the re-editing and nit picking on it for absolute perfection.Has probably been told hundreds of times to "get off his behind and write a movie, a horror movie, instead of criticising people" , so with that pressure of the eyes of those directors and actors he has offended (though somewhat objectively , being a film critic) would add extra obstacles.
                            I dont think ive ever heard of a critic switching sides (prob are some out there), although i have seen comedians paule kaye or sacha baren cohen who both bashed various celebrities in a very direct way and now both star in major tv/film shows.Im sure theres less successful stories

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                              bob the moo — 12 years ago(July 08, 2013 01:38 AM)

                              Rod Lurie
                              (
                              imdb.com/board/20527109/
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                              used to be a film critic with Empire magazine and broke out into making films.
                              Has done pretty well for himself as a result.
                              Be still Moriarty, do you want us both out of this suit?

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                                Paddy_Jony — 12 years ago(July 08, 2013 03:05 PM)

                                Cheers for that , saw two of his films before , didnt know he was critic turned director. Ya hes ok

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                                  KermodeIndeed — 11 years ago(May 03, 2014 02:46 AM)

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