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hydesakura — 20 years ago(June 09, 2005 11:56 PM)
If you want to define a country, I think you should be really careful.
I was just trying to be playful with your previous comments, but now you really pissed me off.
I'm Korean, who ACTUALLY live in Korea, and wherever you come from, it's pretty annoying to see somebody just define a nation, just like that, BOOM!
The most cosmetic surgery crazy nation on the planet?? Give me some statistics and I'll believe you. Don't say "I heard from here" or "I saw pictures on the internet". That doesn't say anything. And if you are gonna say "There is no stats out there" then DO NOT say something like that at all, cuz it really offends Koreans.
And I have no idea why you said this is a huge moral problem. What's plastic surgery got to do with our Korean's moral??????
But come to think of it, if you were a kind of person who considered all the above, you wouldn't have commented this absurd things in the first place. -
hydesakura — 20 years ago(June 10, 2005 01:14 AM)
Yu can't say 'prejudice' when you have the acutal nationality. don't you dare say i have prejudice.
Why should i do the research myself? you were the one suggesting it. you are the one who is saying 99.99999 whatever percent. Stop pushing me the responsibilties to research it. you really should've at first showed or proved the stats before you said anything like this. and if somebody oppose to your saying, it is YOUR responsibility to prove it cuz YOU were the one who brought it up.
and enlighten me with the morality and plastic surgery please. you told me i really need to reflect. tell me why we have low morality even if this platic thing is true. don't again tell me to research it myself. YOU seem to be the expert, bringing up all this studying result things. -
bloodsoup — 20 years ago(June 11, 2005 05:36 AM)
I've done lots of reflecting on Platsic Surgery. Ethics maybe, but morals? Nah. Everyone has to decide on their own if they want to put a knife to their face. What if there is too much cultural pressure so people don't have a choice? Bollocks. You always have a choiceesp. if you are actually in the economic position to even consider the consummer choice that is plastic surgery. If you've saved up money for surgery, then you've definitly made a choice.
Body painting and/or manipulation has been around since the beginning of organized society. Plastic surgery just normalized itthat's the problem with it. It's not a moral issue, it's a cultural one that deals with standards of beauty, choice and conformity.
This actress is gorgeousI could care less if she made chose to have surgery or not. Although personally, I think she looks pretty naturalbut for the rich, the surgeons are just that good.
If you are really so-against plastic surgery, do you boycott actors or actresses who have had it performed? Would you not watch an Angelina Jolie movieI mean, jeez, those lips!
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hydesakura — 20 years ago(June 13, 2005 08:04 PM)
Body painting and/or manipulation has been around since the beginning of organized society. Plastic surgery just normalized itthat's the problem with it. It's not a moral issue, it's a cultural one that deals with standards of beauty, choice and conformity.
agree.
(too bad my english isn't THAT good to give lonsumtravlr another arguement. too tired and too difficult to express my opinion in English. damn. anyway, i totally agree with you bloodsoup) -
hydesakura — 20 years ago(June 14, 2005 08:18 AM)
I just wanted you to know something.
i was born in Korea and was raised here for 25 years. i've only lived in England for 4 years when i was four years old to eight years old.
The thing is i can speak normal conversations, but if it comes to deep ones i keep reaching my limit. i can't speak fluently like you. (although i understand quite ok)
i assume you've been born and raised and educated in an english-speaking country since you can express yoursel5b4f quite logically.
so it would be nice if you wont say things like 'don't use that excuse' when you don't really know my situationright? i'm telling this in a nice way, cuz this is fairly off-topic (this is one of the problems in writings. you don't really know the person's tone)
anyway i wanted to tell you that it isn't an excuse. i really did reach my limits of expressing what i want in english. Speaking logically and debating in English is very difficult(plus a different thing than when i speak in Korean)
you are entitled to believe whatever you want about this plastic surgery(as i am too), but please dont tell me i'm a liar saying i'm using excuses. (again, im just saying in a pleasent tone. please don't take me wrong)
again, this is off-topic. just wanted you to know my situation. -
xblood_is_yummyx — 20 years ago(November 28, 2005 04:33 PM)
What if a child is born with a terribly deformed face? If plastic surgery can be used to help that child and let them lead a normal life without people pointing and whispering at them, can you really say then that the surgery is an immoral act?
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jamhead-3 — 19 years ago(February 08, 2007 09:04 AM)
I don't think anyone's trying to define your nation. I've lived in Seoul for a few years now. Yes, a lot of people, especially women, have their eyes done. It's a simple fact. Not too many days go by when I don't see a woman with inappropriately dark sunglasses on, on a cloudy day. Most women admit to it also, if not flaunt their new eyes. The ads are everywhere, on the subways, billboards, newspapers, for cosmetic surgery specialists.
The Korean entertainment industry is putting out some great works, but it is still new by global staandards. Sometimes it plays catch-up by copying or exaggerating western music trends and pop fashion, even appearances (eyes).
I don't think this has anything to do with Korea's moral standing. It's spirit of nationalism is alive and well.