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haplok2 — 13 years ago(December 31, 2012 06:20 AM)
youre the most dangerous to our nation because you defend those who are attacking our nation
Wrong. You're the most dangerous because you're just as much of an intolerant manichaean as the foreign extremists you decry: Osama Bin Laden, Kim Jong-Un, Mohammed Ahmedinejad, Hugo Chavez. All of them disdain THE RULE OF LAW, all of them demonize their enemies, all of them (with the partial exception of Hugo Chavez) actively support the suppression of free speech.
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galahadfairlight — 13 years ago(December 28, 2012 02:48 AM)
I suggest you go look up McCarthyism, and then decide if your tact is a good idea, do you know nothing of your own history?
Piers Morgan didn't attack America, he might be an beep but he's not stupid.
So Free Speech in America is meaningless, thanks for the headsup, just means the constitution is worthless, is that the image you wanted to convey?
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galahadfairlight — 13 years ago(December 28, 2012 10:18 AM)
so what youre saying is its fine to trash part of the constitution
Yup, your constitution precisely gives people that right via Free Speech. You can't selectively choose what is free speech, otherwise it ceases to be free speech.
There are elements of the constitution that are rather dated, to pretend otherwise is frankly madness.
EVERYTHING should be subject to change for the better, if its truly for the better, and that includes your constitution.
but if some111cone calls them out for it, they are the bad guy because they are "attacking free speech"
All depends how you word it, if your response is somehow to promote the notion of removing their free speech, then sure, you are the bad guy.
Discuss, debate, but deport just because you don't agree with them? Mental!
he can call for the law to be broken as a foreigner
but as a natural citizen i cant call for him to be punished for attacking our laws
Punished how? He's used free speech, why is his free speech worth any less than yours? Why is his use of free speech worthy of punishment?
Before you start worrying about Piers 'nobody' Morgan, worry about some of the radicalised groups within your own country before you worry about what one foreigner says, they are rather more incendiary than he'll EVER be.
ok, you have your opinion, myself and many others have ours
And so does Piers Morgan, he's as entitled to his opinion as you are yours, except of course if your suggestion is to silence him (as if deporting him would silence him sheesh!!).
If you're prepared to tolerate my opinion, then you should do the same for Morgan.
only one major point, Im natural born, piers is a foreign national
What relevance has that got to do with anything? So now you're suggesting the constitution now promotes discrimination????????????
WTF?
support the foreigners publicly, so the nation knows what side youre on. please be very loud about it
Theres something said by a famous chap called Voltaire, and it goes along the lines of "I may not agree with what you say, but i'll defend to the death your right to say it."
Disliking Piers Morgans opinion is absolutely fine, trying to silence him over it is not.
Free Speech is free speech with NO conditions, or it ceases to be free.
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galahadfairlight — 13 years ago(December 29, 2012 02:22 PM)
nice language,
Thanks, its English, do you approve?
soon as you went low brow i stopped playing your game
Really? Which point was that? Was it where you didn't have a sane and reasonable response to counter with?
reported
Do I now have to suffer the ire of your 'mom' and 'pop' shouting at me now?
you cant actually debate so you just get vulgar
Really? Where was I vulgar?
I think its precisely because I can debate, which is why you're opting to bow out now.
you lost,
Its clear by your lack of challenge to my post that thats not the case.
and you just keep repeating the same stuff over and over again
The repetition you speak of is slight, however your 'propaganda' stance, has been repeated so as to render the word useless.
even though i was VERY CLEAR
VERY CLEARLY you were not.
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galahadfairlight — 13 years ago(January 08, 2013 11:57 AM)
I've got it backed up if you want me to re-post it, so you can dodge it again champ?
Of course you'll no longer address me, people with limited intellect (such as yourself) will go out of their way to avoid a a REAL discussion, which is fine in itself, shows you know your limitations.
Such a shame then that you fear to reach beyond them. Bless
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greenegg — 13 years ago(December 27, 2012 10:41 AM)
Good point, OP. Doughboy yet again proves how uneducated and paranoid tea baggers are. I'm amaze5b4d by how few of these love it or leave it types can spell or write a coherent sentence. My mother was on an FBI watch list for supporting McGovern back in the 70s; at school, I was kicked, spat upon and called commie pinko b*tch for wearing my McGovern button. Forty years on, how depressing to see some things never change. I don't recall the OP saying Doughboy should be on any FBI list.
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haplok2 — 13 years ago(January 02, 2013 06:45 AM)
Of course there's no law requiring you to do so, I merely asked you what's wrong with doing so. As far as I'm concerned, threatening foreigners with deportation if they dare to disagree with some Americans about how to interpret their own laws is a clear illustration of xenophobia.
What was the purpose of quotation marks? Do you degree that the opinions of foreign nationals are as diverse as our own?
You seem to have an issue with opinions that interpret the Second Amendment differently than you do.
I'm not sure while you're still here. Deporting foreigners for exercising their free speech rights is a violation of free speech. Contrary to your belief, enfranchisement and civil rights are not the same. Piers is not entitled to the former unless and until he acquires citizenship; but he is fully entitled to the latter upon his arrival on these shores.
Do you believe you should refrain from discussing politics in Western democracies when you're abroad? (Have you ever been abroad?)