A Christian?
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bindiboi — 20 years ago(January 28, 2006 12:08 AM)
Ok, you are right there guitarowner, the word christian DOES get thrown around too much! You have most brilliantly proved this!
Using your own terms and conditions you have proven just how non-christian you actually are.
I am not a christian, but I used to be. So unlike most "non-belivers" I DO know the bible.
Are you ready? Probably not, as are most "christians" who are slapped with a good healthy dose of humble pie.
Lets take a look at your some of your messages posted here on IMBD.
Board: Jamie Lee Curtis
Thread: Soooo ugly! (Which you are the originator of no less!)
Quote: "She could be in horror films as the monster!"
And
Board: Sarah Jessica Parker
Thread: Peter Griffin is right. (Once again you are the originator!)
Quote: "She does look like a foot."
Hmmm I don't think that is very Christian-like, is it?
Example: Ephesians 5:4 - "There should be no dirty talk, no foolish talk, no funny stories with a wrong meaning. This is not a good way to talk. But what you should do is thank God."
There are many others.
Board: Saw II (Such a "Christ-like" movie! WWJD?)
Thread: Wow Shawnee was way hotter
Quote: "I think she was hotter in Saw II. Her womanly form was much more noticable and I liked her hair cut."
Example: Matthew 5:28 - "But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart."
Once again, there are many others.
Before you go around saying how a "Christian" should act, be sure you act the same way.
I personally think the way you have acted is just fine under the parameters that I feel are moral. However, I get pissed off when christians point the finger at others for doing "sinful" things, when they don't live up to the very same ideals!
Shame, shame, shame!
I don't mind christians, but I do mind hypocrites, reguardless of their beliefs. -
professor_dorr — 20 years ago(January 30, 2006 11:08 PM)
Thank you Bindiboi.
You hit the nail on the head! I agree. It does noty reflect well on the person or religion when he spouts verses to condemn. Nor does it to act so foolish and hypocritical. If only some Christians could lighten up a little bit and try some understanding rather than immediately making vague convictions based on, say, a film that doesn't seem Christian enough.
"You're crazy!""Now, now, Louis, you musn't say things like that because I told you" -
bindiboi — 20 years ago(January 31, 2006 10:36 AM)
Thank you as well professor_dorr! I dont care what religion or beliefs a person has, that is up to them and they have that freedom, just as long as they keep it to themselves. I have come across so many people who point the finger at others, without pointing the finger at themselves.
As you can see, we haven't heard from our friend.
Hmm, big surprise there! -
Cloudoku867 — 19 years ago(June 03, 2006 02:19 PM)
I understand what you're saying about pointing fingers, but when talking about keeping religion to themselves, you have stated the quintescential antithesis of Christianity. The main reason, in my own interpretation, of Christianity, is to get as many people to go to heaven as possible. How, as Jesus did, are we to "fish for people" without spreading the Good News of Jesus Christ. God does not want people to go to Hell, but it is also important to live a life of purity, free from sin. Jesus died so that a Christian's sins, past, present, and future, are null and void. This way, all one must do to gain eternal, blissful life is believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ, and that he is the Son of God. Now, some may use the previous sentence to think that I just justified sinning. A true believer just would not to things that go against Jesus' teachings.
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bindiboi — 19 years ago(June 05, 2006 05:07 PM)
No, you obviously do not understand what I am saying at all. It is one thing to talk to others about your beliefs, it is another to sit there and point out the flaws of others without seeing and recognizing your own.
We don't live is some third wold country where many of its citizens have not been exposed to chrisianity. We know, we get it. Too many "christians" go on and on shoving it down our throats. For the most part all that is going to do is piss people off and discourage them from joining your crusade.
I have said this to many people in the past and I still believe it. If I live a good and decent life, be a good person that helps others when I can, IF there is a god and IF there is a heaven and hell and this god condemns me to an eternity in hell just because I did not follow and believe in Jesus and what have you, then I want NOTHING to do with him. Period. But if your god is as good and loving as you and many christians preach, then he would not do this.
Now I know what some will say, "The road to hell is paid with good intentions." Well, that is doing good things with the goal in mind is to pay your way into heaven. I do not practice that way of thought. I don't do good deads to get into heaven or to make myself look good, I do them because I am in the position at that time to do so and it is the right thing to do.
You see, I know how this little game is played, I used to play it. I was a bible thumper myself for many years. I know that bible, I know the "tactics" used. You can't just settle for someone being a good and decent person, no they have to be a good and decent person but doing so for "the glory of god".
Now I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with being a christian. I have many friends that are christians. What I have a problem with are pushy and self serving christians, like guitar owner up there.
NO ONE can tell me that he is right, and as we have seen by his not responding, not even he can tell me he is right.
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rvemms — 20 years ago(March 18, 2006 07:21 PM)
"Making mainstream movies doesn't do much for God, but going to foreign countries and feeding the hungry does, or working in local ministries does (even if it's supplementary to your other job/carreer). I personally don't consider Mel Gibson or Jim Caviezel to be Christians. They're Catholics, no doubt, but they're not doing much good. The Passion of the Christ had its good points, but I was really disappointed by how bad the theology of it was, and beyond that to go on making other films with vulgarity and profanity and other non-Christian elements, I think, is hypocritical."
I have to really disagree with you here. I happen to know for sure that the Passion of the Christ brought many people to Christ. Just because it had a little Catholic theology in it doesn't mean that it is inaccurate. Have you read the gospel? The movie went along with the Scripture almost word for word. Making movies does alot for God. God can use anything for good. Remember that all truth is God's truth. Also, I have to also disagree with you when you said:
"There are so many variations of so called "Christianity" that the term is almost useless. I've begun to only think of like-minded believers (people who believe, more or less, as I do) as Christians because the others, as far as my experience goes, seek a god that fulfills their own desires of what a god should be and not who God really is according to the Bible. So basically I consider anyone who 1) knows and can articulate what they believe, 2) lives up to what they believe (reasonably), and 3) can defend their beliefs with scripture and reason, to be real Christians. I say this because 99% of disagreements during debates in doctrine/theology end by one party simply refusing to continue debating once they are argued into a corner, so instead of conceding that they are wrong, they change the subject or divert attention away from themselves."
I think that a more accurate discription of a Christian is: A person who believes that Jesus Christ came to earth as a man and died for our sins. A true Christian would never renounce their beliefs either according to Romans. Could you please quit being so judgemental? The way you stated the quote above it sounds like Christianity is what you make it to be, not what is really is. -
matterella — 19 years ago(June 14, 2006 10:42 AM)
"I say this because 99% of disagreements during debates in doctrine/theology end by one party simply refusing to continue debating once they are argued into a corner" taken from guitar owners post.
He he he talk about a coincidence, See it's strange that he uses this argument and then has no follow through. -
ProfessorChambers — 19 years ago(June 08, 2006 10:50 PM)
First of all, I'm a Christian too and I agree with guitarowner on all but two things.
- "O Entertainment's Christmas movie "Santa Vs. The Snowman" had nothing to do with Christ, which would be odd if a Christian was making a Christmas movie."
I don't think it's odd for a Christian to make a film about Santa or Snowmen. Just because someone is a Christian means they can't talk about Santa. My parents told me Santa was real and someday I'll tell my kids Santa is real. There's nothing wrong with it as long as you teach them that Christmas is also about Jesus. I mean, seriously, what's wrong with Santa and what's the harm in telling your kids about him? They grow out of it. I'm pretty sure there is no 30 year old "kids" out there waiting up on Christmas Eve to get a glimps of Santa. - "There are very few Christians in the entertainment business I think, and that's probably because most Christians realize that their efforts could best be used to serve God in other ways. Making mainstream movies doesn't do much for God"
What about Passion of the Christ? I think the only reason movies don't do much for God is because no one makes them. And all "God movies" that come out are usually cheesey and dumb. That's why I liked Passion. It was real. I think we need more people like Mel Gibson making these movies. Who cares if he's Roman Catholic instead of Christianas long as the message is getting across.
- "O Entertainment's Christmas movie "Santa Vs. The Snowman" had nothing to do with Christ, which would be odd if a Christian was making a Christmas movie."
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bindiboi — 19 years ago(June 14, 2006 12:24 PM)
You agree with everything he said put those two things? What about the rest of it? Like where it is OK to judge everybody else but refuses to look at himself. It's called hipocracy, not too Christian is it?
Um, 'Catholic Theology' is the original, unbroken theology passed on from Christ down through the apostles, not the goofy, da0'made-up' theology of the Protestants.
Really? Ok where in the bible does it say pray and worship Mary?
He he he talk about a coincidence, See it's strange that he uses this argument and then has no follow through.
My point exactly. I hate it when people start these arguments then disappear. He was all brave until someone logically approaches him, them "poof" they're gone.
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Johnny_Macho — 19 years ago(June 15, 2006 12:38 PM)
"Really? Ok where in the bible does it say pray and worship Mary?"
Show me where it says in the Catechism of the Catholic Church to do the same, and you'll have a point.
EDIT: Not that you don't have a point anyway; I don't mean to be so trite and dismissive. It's a common misconception.
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bindiboi — 19 years ago(June 24, 2006 04:31 PM)
I will be honest wiht you, I don't really follow. I don't know much about the Catechism of the Catholic Church. I just remember a lot of the bible from my Christian days.
I have been curious about the Catechism. So I take it that it has no mention of the who Saints and Mary thing?
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Johnny_Macho — 19 years ago(June 26, 2006 06:48 AM)
No, it mentions the saints and Mary, but it also explains that they are not worshiped. I guess the idea is since we have immortal souls, once you're a member of the church, you stay a member even after death.
Like if you have a prayer group, and you ask someone to pray for you, you aren't treating that mortal person as God. You're asking them to petition God on your behalf. The same applies for the saints.