A Christian?
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Johnny_Macho — 19 years ago(June 26, 2006 06:48 AM)
No, it mentions the saints and Mary, but it also explains that they are not worshiped. I guess the idea is since we have immortal souls, once you're a member of the church, you stay a member even after death.
Like if you have a prayer group, and you ask someone to pray for you, you aren't treating that mortal person as God. You're asking them to petition God on your behalf. The same applies for the saints. -
Johnny_Macho — 19 years ago(August 15, 2006 01:32 PM)
Immortal souls. And it's not just the saints. I have one and you have one and everybody has one, and once God brings you into the church (according to the Sacraments recorded in the gospel and the acts of the apostles, such as baptism) you remain, even after bodily death. And we aren't strict dualists, either, since the body will be raised from the dead at the end of time, although we don't pretend to know when that is.
So you are asking a person to petition God on your behalf. A properly worded prayer will not assert the nonexistent primacy of the saint, and will always be very clear that all power and all assistance comes from the triune God himself, and no one else. Even Mary, who everyone thinks we worship, is only special because she is the mother of Christ! If Christ were not who He is, she would be of no special note. -
leacockryan — 19 years ago(August 10, 2006 10:53 PM)
Just because your a christian, doesn't mean you have to make "christian" movies.
If a painter is a christian, it doesn't mean he has to paint Jesus all day.
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TRAUMAHAWK532 — 19 years ago(August 18, 2006 01:08 AM)
This has been a very interesting message board to read. From watching some ob68f Steve's movies it appears that he is a christian or at least has "christian" values. Take "Nothing to lose". The main character could have cheated on his wife and an argument could have been made that he would have been justified in doing so, but chose not to which turned out to be the right choice. It's very funny about some people who call themselves "christians" and would rather spend more time looking down at people and thumbing their noses at people than looking at the big picture. Instead of looking at what seperates us religously and wether or not one bible has "thee" at the top of page 165 in stead of the other one that has "thou" on page 165, we need to look what is the same instead of differences.
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order-38 — 19 years ago(December 03, 2006 07:47 PM)
Wow, I don't usually have time to check out all the jazz written about me on the internet and this is the first time I've ever posted a response, but this dialogue was both unusually unique and interesting. Yes, I am a Christian and believe that Christ died for our sins. I was also given sort of a wacky mind and have felt a drive to make people laugh from the time I was a little kid. Fuse those together and you wind up with me. The range of tones from project to project is a bit more eclectic than the norm. It's quite a spread between the Patch Adams and Bruce Almightys of the world and the Kung Pow and Thumbs. I'm definitely drawn to positive energy messages, while at the same time have this huge affinity for the inane. I feel very blessed and my career and I myself a continuing work in progress. Hope this clears up some of the theories. Have a blast,
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Skip_4591 — 19 years ago(November 15, 2006 04:14 PM)
As much as I'd like to think that Steve is a Christ2000ian, I don't really see the evidence for it. He seems like a nice guy, but that's not Christianity. For example, a number of his movies include profanity, which goes against Ephesians 4:29
nobody's perfect. there are great christians who use profanity. just because someone curses doesn't mean that he or she is automatically out of the running of being a christian.
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tawdry_hepburn — 19 years ago(January 28, 2007 05:03 PM)
Naw man. If you read Hebrew, like I do, it becomes apparent that it doesn't mean don't "cuss" it means don't use G-d as a justification for evil deeds. Basically, what it's saying means, don't rape pillage and murder and then say I told you to. Of course, actually noting that invalidates almost every single Christian church ever to exist, so it isn't regularly clarified.
Also, the word "abomination" for gays is another mistranslation. The word has 2 meanings, 1) Abomination (roughly, it more literally means a sin against G-d)and 2) a moral miscalculation. Now, there is no 1 word in English that means "a moral miscalculation" so the translators went with the word that had an easier translation, which would seem more direct. Except, it doesnt make sense. There are 3 uses of the word abomination in the bible, all in Leviticus. 1) Bestiality, 2)homosexuality and 3) eating shell fish, which the bible says will destroy your soul. But again, if you actually read the surrounding texts, it becomes apparent that these are things to pity people for, not righteous indignation that words like abomination would imply. Therefore, I maintain that the first 2 are mistranslated.
as for the passion, I thought it was the best snuff film ever made. but it completely fails as a narrative on its' own.
said the shotgun to the head
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jackiechad — 15 years ago(November 08, 2010 07:04 AM)
I've gotten that vibe myself, that maybe he's a Christian. I think Steve has a great sense of humor. Only a small portion of my DVD library is comedy, but Kung Pow, the Thumb movies, and the Almighty movies are great, great stuff. I hope he'll do more projects mixing comedy and faith.
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madmansheep — 14 years ago(April 14, 2011 05:40 AM)
I don't know if Steve is a chri1908stian, but I think he's very familiar to religions in common sense.
The way he formed God in the Almighty-movies, is a black man who has humor and earns respect. I'd really like to think that's the God the bible is telling about.
So I guess Steve Oedekerk is familiar with the bible, christianity and the human spirit, and maybe much, much more