The George Lucas of literature
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question7 — 12 years ago(December 29, 2013 07:15 AM)
errr. you dont have to like HP, However trying to tear the woman down just because you like hunger games more is ridiculous. harry potter was a very compelling series and is by far superior to hungers games. if you don't like OOTP that is fine. however the book is still light years ahead of mockingjay.
The 00TP was still well received and sold like what 55m copies worldwide in paper back that is more than the 3 hunger games book combined.Most of the criticism of the book was how the book themes was getting too mature and complex for kids. however everyone knows that rowling was never necessarily writing for kids only.
I for one loved OOTP, it was a very long and in depth book that showed how extremely corrupt the ministry of magic is and the themes of family loyality and betrayal especially with Bellatrix and Siruis. Saying you did not like harry's character is so childish. harry was a very flawed character and it showed in this book, the fact that he was so hot headed and angry all the time still showed how human he is and I don't blame him. how many people would be able to control themselves if others are trying to shut them up when they are trying to tell the truth.
O my gosh you are also the same person that said Hermione became a mary sue? really? last i checked. Hermione was still not perfect, nether was she the hottest girl in school (forget the fact that emma is very pretty) she still hard to study hard and still hard to constantly prove to herself why despite been a muggleborn, she was a worthy witch and a proud one. she also still suffered the prejudice and hate all muggleborn faced all up until the end. she was willing to protect her parents at any expense even if it was loosing them, last I checked most mary sues get everything they want.
Hermione also did not get to be rich leaving a mansion or a cool big house with lots of money. like how most mary sues end in the story.
Hermione became a hard working public officer, fighting for house elves in enslavement and making sure everyone was treated equally because she herself had experienced prejudice.
Hermione also never hard two extremely hot guys fighting over her and her making a choice to pick one as Harry never loved her romantically and oh yeah, neither harry and ron were physically all that attractive. they were just average at best. Harry was quite shot with nerdy glasses and Ron had lots of freckles.
In case you don't know but one of the most important factor of mary sues is how she always gets the most handsome guy without any effort and how she is worshiped and wanted by all the guys even the bad ones or how all the teachers always love her. Last I checked Draco still disliked Hermione so did Snape.
Again, like a mary sue who are just naturally gifted at everything, Hermione abilities comes from the fact that she is a book worm. she is not naturally endowed with supernatural abilities, she actually studies.
PLEASE GO BACK AND READ WHAT A MARY SUE IS. Bella Swan is a mary sue so is Katniss (partially) Hermione is not one.
Please stop embarrassing yourself with you silly obsession to tear down Mrs Rowling.
You scream about how awful order of the phoneix is, yet it is still light years ahead of mockingjay. a lot of hp fans have not for once started a campaign to say the book should not be canon. Please how many petition have there been by HG fans asking people not to recognize mockingjay as part of the hunger games story?
The bottom line is JK Rowling is still one of the best fantasy authors of all time.HP is solid proof of that. tearing her down because you like susan collins more is stupid and childish. -
ImaWeabooApparantly — 12 years ago(December 29, 2013 09:03 AM)
Okay, what's with all the assumptions about THG? When did I ever bring it up? Yes, I like THG, but I don't consider it my favorite series. That honor goes to the "Michael Vey" books by Richard Paul Evans.
Okay, maybe Potterheads don't hate OOTP as much as I do, but have you ever met anybody that said "My favorite HP book? Definitely 'Order of the Phoenix!' All its subplots were necessary, and Umbridge was such a great villain. Turning Harry into a crying emo was great character development too."
I call Hermione a Sue because she's never allowed to be wrong about anything. If she deforms somebody and ruins their life, everyone has to agree with her. The only time she ever gets called out on anything is the SPEW subplot, but even getting it screamed into her ear that the House Elves enjoy it won't phase her.
Harry's not safe either. Rowling had to jump the shark by making Harry a god damn 2000Chosen One, one of the most overused plot devices in fiction. -
question7 — 12 years ago(December 29, 2013 09:39 AM)
Actually no hermione is not a sue. the fact that she is not considered wrong about everything does not make her sue. THAT IS RIDICULOUS. First of all Hermione got a lot of things wrong.
She had stupid priorities at the beginning.
She did not know the fine line between been bossy and actually helping others
Snape called her out for been an insufferable no it all so its not like when she acted like a person who is never wrong, she did not have people call her out for it. Snape and Ron did.
she did not completely believe harry when harry told her that malfoy jnr was not a death eater.
she got the character of victor crum wrong and also the character of fluer wrong as well.
She got her potion spells wrong in hlaf blood prince.
Hermione was never ever perfect yes she was book smart but a lot of time she still needed a word of wisdom.
I loved the spew subplot by the way. what better way for a person that has experience prejudice to try and stop it.
Look, am not stupid. your hatred of OOTP was perhaps the destruction of the harry/cho relationship. you as an asian where perhaps rooting for cho the asain like you to get with the lead but that did not happen so it turned you off.
GET OVER IT.
bwhhhahahahahahahahahahahahaa.
sorry, I am laughing at your wizards/ Dawson creek comment.
first of all are you aware that HP is the most studied fantasy book in academia and lots of colleges actually have courses on HP and are you aware this woman has an honorary degree from Harvard and st Andrews for been on of the best fictional writers of her era.
are you also aware that her recent book the cuckoo's calling was named the best crime novel of 2013 and one of the best books of 2013. the main praise for the book came for it been so well written.
lastly are you aware that Dawson creek is one of the greatest teen shows of all time. it was one of those few teen shows where the teens faced realistic social issues and actually had real depth. it was not generic, shallow or superficial teen drama like gossip girl.
please enlighten more with your ignorance.
its cool that you hate Rowling for screwing your favorite ship but please trying to tear down her achievement just makes you sound awkward and desperate. -
ImaWeabooApparantly — 12 years ago(December 29, 2013 09:45 PM)
Wow. Someone is clearly a racist. First off, I'm white. Second, I didn't root for the Harry/Cho ship. I just found its purpose in the books to be completely pointless. I wasn't pissed that they didn't get together. I was pissed because it went absolutely nowhere. And even if I did support it, what did my race have to do with it? You're saying that only Asians like Asian characters? Seriously, did you read a word I've said? Or did you just skim it, noticed my mentioning of Cho, and automatically concluded that I was a shipper?
If you're going to be making assumptions about me, then I'm going to make some about you. You're a racist that swallows anything Rowling regurgitates in your mouth. You complain about every poorly-written tween novel, but you won't say a damn thing about Harry Potter because he's part of your childhood. If OOTP didn't have the HP name on it, I can guarantee people would see it as poorly-written tripe. If you think you like this book, you're lying to yourself.
It seems to me like you're only making these assumptions about me is because you're just a butthurt fanboy that can't accept criticism. Just because something is critically acclaimed, doesn't mean I have to like it. The first four 1908books were great, but the last three were when JKR stopped giving a damn. She thought that with her money, she didn't have to try anymore, so she just waited until the weekend before her deadline to write them. -
question7 — 12 years ago(December 30, 2013 02:19 AM)
BWHWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
o please, stop it you are ASIAN. I feel so stupid for not even figuring it out. 95% of the time when a girl shows an obsessive hatred for a book or a film it is usually because her ship did not sail.
So please stop the crap. You are asiain.
Secondly when have I complained about a poorly written novel. I have not. the only poorly written novel I know of is the twilight series. I have read Hunger games and percy jackson and they are well written. Although I did find issues with mockingjay as well however i am not spitting hate on it neither am i asking that the book not be canon , all i said was HP was the exceptional of all the modern YA in terms of story, complexity and character depth. JK Rowling did create a whole new world.
LOL.Who said i cant accept criticism. i accept good criticism, your criticism makes no sense at all and it is stupid. to a lot of people half blood prince was one of the best in the series and DH was a great finale.
So yeah just drop it. harry/cho did not happendeal with it and move on. -
ImaWeabooApparantly — 12 years ago(December 30, 2013 09:24 AM)
Here's a picture of me, you little smartass:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=314573505233394&set=t.1000 00114434794&type=3&theater
Again, I ask, what does my race have to do with it? Stupid racist.
Who said i cant accept criticism.
All the assumptions that I'm a shipper and blatantly ignoring all the reasons I listed. Yeah, my shipping preferences are totally the reason I hated the book. Not the excessive padding, plot holes you can drive the moon through, and bastardized character development. No, it's only my OTP. People just can't have le2000gitimate reasons to hate something popular. -
question7 — 12 years ago(December 31, 2013 04:22 AM)
a fake picture of you. who are u trying to deceive someone who is not Sherlock.
bwhahahahahahahahahahahaha. you hated the book that is your preference. however saying the book is not good is an opinion you share in a tiny minority. sorry I will take a view and critic of someone like the legendary STEPHEN KING. WHO gave a good critical praise and constructive criticism of the book. I will take him over an idiotic fan girl like you who hated the book because of your ship.
Yes that is my legitimate reason. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY since you real reason for hating the book is because harry/cho did not sail.
bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
the stupidity of fan girls never seizes to amaze me. -
ImaWeabooApparantly — 12 years ago(December 31, 2013 10:11 AM)
Fine. Here's a whole album of me:
https://www.facebook.com/josh.sinclair.359/photos
You're a moron. You can't accept the fact that somebody's opinion differs from yours. God, Harry Potter fans are just some of the dumbest mother beep on the internet. -
question7 — 12 years ago(January 07, 2014 05:03 AM)
LOL, Who said I cannot accept a different opinion. your opinion are stupid, its like saying 1+1 is 3 and you want people to accept that because it is your opinion. your opinion have no legitimate reason.
you sound foolish when you are trying to explain them. did you not say Hermione was a mary sue? when in reality she was not. bella swan is a big sue and katniss are little sue. I dont see you calling this girls are out.
Saying jk roiwling is like george lucas is just stupid. no one will ever agree to that. JK Rowling is one of the most celebrated author of this era both critically and commercially. her recent book the cuckoos calling was one of the best selling and most criti238cally acclaimed book of 2013. please when last did Lucas produce something good.
so they are not the same.
please shut your idiotic mouth, actually most potter fans are grown up now like star wars fan and majority of the potter fans are adults now with kids, the series defined a generation and an era. it was not about a particular demo like hunger games or twilight.
I don't think they have the time to argue with a stupid fan girl like you. if you are looking at some of the dumbest fan-base on the internet why don't you try the t5b4wilight and hunger games fangirls or the one direction fangirls, of course you are one of them.
Its obvious since your mad because your favorite couple did not sail.BWHAHAHAHA. -
ImaWeabooApparantly — 12 years ago(January 08, 2014 02:27 PM)
Okay. How am I wrong? How the beep am I wrong? Because I called Hermione a Sue when you don't think that?
You didn't answer my question. What does being Asian have to do with liking a character? You clearly hate Asians and think they're all Yellow Supremacists. I bet you would also disown your child for dating a black person, demand that a Jew gets fired from the bank so he doesn't steal your money, think all gay people rape children, and petition to get anyone of Islamic descent kicked out of the country.
How about you stop making assumptions about me, stop White Knighting Rowling, and just accept that not everyone likes HP. Critical acclaim doesn't exempt somebody from criticism. You sound like a "Twilight" Fangirl that uses book sales as a justification of liking it. Of course, you're just going to ignore everything I said and accuse me of being bitter that Neville didn't get with Luna or something.
I don't like "Harry Potter." It started good, but launched itself over a shark. You can accuse me of being an angry shipper all you like, but that doesn't change the fact that somebody out there doesn't agree with you. -
question7 — 12 years ago(January 14, 2014 03:56 AM)
you called hermione a sue when you did not even know what a sue is.
Yes everything is criticized but your ciritscm makes no sense. putting Rowling and Lucas on the same level is a silly criticism and yes you are Asian.
to you it started good but jump the shark and that is fine its your opinon, however it does not hold as much merit, is like saying a kid who started with a B grade in the freshman year of high school only to end up with an A grade by the end of high school is a bad academic kid.
that is a stupid comment, Harry potter started great and stayed great this is a view the large majority share.
you are also the same person that thinks mockingjay is a good book and has enough source material to have 2 films? and you think HP jumped the shark. you logic is laughable. they will have to drag out mocking jay whereas in deathly hallows lots of parts in the book were still missing in the films and this is because deathly hallow had depth with a big story. mockingjay does not have any of this things.
Seriously your hate for Roweling is based on the fact that Susan collins will always play second field to her in overall success and fiction legacy.
this is why you make me laugh.
i disagree with people when they make good opinions that i just view differently. some people just make stupid opinions like you. -
ImaWeabooApparantly — 12 years ago(January 15, 2014 08:56 AM)
Answer my god damn question! What does being Asian have to do with liking a character? What are you? A Mexican immigrant?
Why do you keep making untrue assumptions about me? Every time I argue my point, you always throw "You just hate it because your Asian," or "You must be a 'Hunger Games' fanboy." The only argument you actually made was the "Hermione is a Mary Sue" comment. Is that really the only defense you have, so you justda0 keep throwing insults about me? -
question7 — 12 years ago(January 20, 2014 03:56 AM)
Still lacking logic and supreme intelleence.
HMMMM..You said I have no defenselets see,- Harry potter is the one with the 12 oscar nominations and AFI lifetime achievement awards. which is the oldest and most prestigious award you can get in hollywood.
- Hunger games does not have any oscar nominations and will never get awarded by the AFI.
- Rowling who you hate so much is constantly listed as one of the greatest fantasy authors of this era. Susan Collins is never always on the list.
- Rowling who you hate so much was shortlist for a noble prize and is the most awarded female author in modern history.
- EW HP ranked 1. as the greatest ever YA book. Hunger games was 8th
- EW all time greatest book. HP ranked 7. Hunger games did not make list.
Hunger games is good series It is better than twilight, I like it but it is not on the same level as HP in term if writing and creation.
All this are facts and are a real defense, you are just saying bs things. you just go around calling JK Rowling names..
bytch please.
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ImaWeabooApparantly — 12 years ago(January 20, 2014 06:21 PM)
Still lacking logic and supreme intelleence.
Says the person who misspelled "intelligence."- Harry potter is the one with the 12 oscar nominations and AFI lifetime achievement awards. which is the oldest and most prestigious award you can get in hollywood.
- Hunger games does not have any oscar nominations and will never get awarded by the AFI.
- Rowling who you hate so much is constantly listed as one of the greatest fantasy authors of this era. Susan Collins is never always on the list.
- Rowling who you hate so much was shortlist for a noble prize and is the most awarded female author in modern history.
- EW HP ranked 1. as the greatest ever YA book. Hunger games was 8th
- EW all time greatest book. HP ranked 7. Hunger games did not make list.
And "5b4Star Wars" was a high-grossing, award-winning franchise. That doesn't stop people from wearing "George Lucas Raped My Childhood" shirts.
Yes, I don't approve of the writing decisions made in the last three books. But that doesn't mean I hate Rowling to the point where I want bad things happening to her. I was just speaking matter-of-factly when I said nobody was going to watch "The Casual Vacancy" since nobody liked the book. Maybe using a pen-name was a good idea for "Cuckoo's Calling." Maybe people hated TCV because it was being unfairly compared to HP. I haven't read it, but I know what people think of it. I thought the people who bought the film rights made a short-sighted decision.
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question7 — 12 years ago(February 01, 2014 01:53 AM)
Actually people still like george lucas and will forever be grateful to him for star wars including me.
You dont see your lies, you are comparing jk Rowling to george lucas when jk rowling has not yet messed up the HP series. she released 7 solid books. Lucas did not release 6 solid star wars film.
the majority of star wars fans hated the prequels only less than tiny minority hate the last books of HP. Half blood prince is usually considers as the best book and deathly hallows is usually regarded as one of the best finales of all time.
You can hate her , if you want but stop trying to discredit her or trying to tear down everything she has accomplished.
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ImaWeabooApparantly — 11 years ago(May 02, 2014 10:54 PM)
"Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them" is shaping up for that. Spreading a 100 page guidebook into a three movie series just screams milking. Yeah, because that's working so well for "The Hobbit."
She may have not have written a bad Prequel Trilogy, but she has written a "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull," or as you like to call it, "Order of the Phoenix." It's clear that Rowling stopped giving a beep, wanted to write a teen romance, but slapped the "Harry Potter" name on it because of her contract.