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quincy_gaines — 14 years ago(July 29, 2011 05:42 PM)
Natalie, look him up on facesearch.com and you will find fairly recent post 1959 photos. In the 80's
Alfalfa and his wife Marie moved to Fresno, California where they retired. He came out of hiding, went on television to set the record strai111cght , but he recoiled after that had failed. He and his son had even tried capitalizing on Hal Roach's brand. They opened a moderately successful local fresno based casting agency for kids , called "Our Gang casting." I found him online, via a restaurant in seattle, where he resided many years, I then spotted him at Tom Corrigan's steakhouse, and after I had interacted with him online, he explained to me, that he saw the reputation he had garnered as a child actor, and he needed a fresh start to move past his career. He told me that I wasnt the only one who found him. He sent me his picture to disspell my disbelief, and he said that all he wanted was to be left alone. Hollywood never stopped coming to him about his early career. By the time he retired, he threw up his hands and embraced his post.. Online you'll not only find post 1959 photos of Alfalfa via facesearch.com search for "Carl Switzer") info on "our gang casting agency" in Fresno, and you'll even find that the website domain name "carl-switzer.com" is registered to him at his Fresno address. Any one who does this research on his life story will come to the same conclusions I found. As this info is easy to find. An example of a hole in the January 21st, 1959: according to the autopsy report, Alfalfa was shot at 6:30pm (at 10400 Columbus ave in Mission hills California just north of Devonshire.), and the nearest hospital at the time was Valley
Receiving (now known as Northridge Medical Center) located off Sherman Circle, which is 7 minutes south of that house via an ambulance drive with few street lights on Woodman ave. the hospital is near Van Nuys blvd and Sherman way (two blocks east of Alfalfa's Masonic temple and a mile from his last residence on Sepulveda.) According to the Coroners report whic
h is sold with the inquest hearing notes and death certificate, (interesting to note autopsy photos are available to next of kin, but anyone is able to buy the other stuff); he was shot at 6:30pm and pronounced dead on arrival at 7:30pm. It took his friends 20 minutes to stop gawking over him like clueless morons as Alfie fought for his life. At 650pm, Rita corrigan finally gets the bright idea to call an ambulance, which arrived after the police at 7:15 pronouncing him dead at 7:30pm. Long story short, the the whole scene spells "cover-up" as it should have not taken an hour to get Alfalfa to the hospital its seven minutes away! Lastly, read the inquest notes and
"Life is big. Take full adva pntage." - Carl Dean "Alfalfa" Switzer-Eldridge, (January 4th, 2005). -
otterbaby — 20 years ago(January 04, 2006 07:57 PM)
Are you 100% sure that he faked his death??? iMdb.com says he died on Jan. 21, 1959. There also is no record of him being on 20/20 in 1990.
He really faked his death or is this one of those "Elvis is still alive" type things???
If this is true the only thing I have to say is WOW!
Natalie
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annarangel — 15 years ago(November 22, 2010 06:45 PM)
HI Natalie.
You CAN`T actually know what happens INSIDE masonery because someone very close to me told me is a TOTAL secret, and every member of the group is forbided to talk about it even to his wife, or kids so no one can now for sure what happens there
If a member talks about what happens there , he surely will be expelled from the Masonery forever.. so, as I tell you how can you be so sure? nobody can, except if you are a member yourself, and, in that case you can't talk about in on the internet. -
otterbaby — 20 years ago(November 03, 2005 07:20 PM)
I also want to add that Masons don't kill members expecially just because they quit going to their meetings!
I know someone um, "joined up"(didn't know the right term) as a Mason about 5 years ago and he hasn't been to meetings for a few years, now.
He's still friends with those guys!
GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!!
Natalie
"Parfaits just might be the best damn thing on Earth!" Donkey from shrek -
tbrox — 19 years ago(June 06, 2006 04:28 PM)
"When you become a Mason, let's just say you pledge your life to the fraternity eternally, via making a vow to Lucifer and the teachings of the illuminati."
Now that is total and complete bull! I would like to say that Masons do nothing of the sort. My dad is a Mason and he recently just finished up his term as the Master of his lodge. When I say "Master" I don't mean some dictator who everyone bows down and worships. I mean a guy who runs the meetings, makes the plans for their parties or whatever, and donates money to charity and scholarships for kids.
"I also want to add that Masons don't kill members expecially just because they quit going to their meetings!"
I would have to agree with Nat on that. You do not have to devote your life to them, you can come and go to meetings as you please and your fellow Masons will not penalise you for doing that. My father does not go to every single one of the meetings and he has not recieved death threats and no one has attempted to murder him.
And that is total bull when you say that Masons pledge their lives to Lucifer. That is not even close to being true. The Masons are a Christian based organization. They would definately not commit themselves to Devil Worship.
And Demolay is basically the same the Masons but it is for young boys who are sons of Masons. In fact, I was part of an organization for young girls that are DAUGHTERS of the Masons and they are called "the Triangles". Triangles eventually become "Eastern Stars" which is the organization of wives, daughters, and mothers of Masons. All of these groups promote friendship, caring for one another, and charitable works such as the child I.D. program, scholarships, and a medical research facility.
The rumors about Masons are prepetuated by ignorance and fear. That is why I took the time to let you know what they are about. If Alfalfa was alive and in trouble he could count on his Masonic brothe5b4rs to come to his aid because that's what they do.
I don't mean to sound harsh or anything, but reading what you said about the organization my father formally ran in his lodge really angered me. Before you go on blaming charitable and well-respected organizations like the Masons for a person's death and posting up fictional rumors about, do a little more research on them before you say anything bad about them.
Thanks for listening!
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quincy_gaines — 19 years ago(November 26, 2006 08:58 AM)
Hi, I'm sorry for offending you. That was not my intention to talk bad about the Masons. It was pure speculation at the time I wrote that. They do great things for kids and the community. They aren't entirely Christian, because they welcome all people from all religions who believe in God. They use the bible as part of their studies. They do no bad thing outside of their initiation ceremony, and what goes on in the secret meetings is a secret to protect their integrity as an organization, which is cool. Unfortunately, the part where they vow to Lucifer their word of secrecy is fact during the initiation ceremony, and when they do that they don't understand what they're reading in the illuminati and it's never explained to them. What goes on with the adult men in the fraternity is never revealed to their wife and kids or people planning to join, and so to know what goes on in the meetings you have to be a male who's experienced it first hand, but not many members unlike myself are willing to speak. The bad is FAR overshadowed by the good the fraternity does. Mr. Switzer did not want his life as he knew it, and they helped him find his escape. If you want to find him, he can VERY easily be found alive, as he now wants people to know part of the truth.
Happy Holidays!
"Life is big. Take full advantage." - Carl Dean "Alfalfa" Switzer-Eldridge, (January 4th, 2005) -
saraisdumb2 — 18 years ago(June 11, 2007 11:26 PM)
Thank you so much!!! this sounds so crazy!! i thi5b4nk this quincy guy most def needs some meds!!! i read everything and it is ALL a crock of bull!!! gheez do you really think people believe the nonsense that you write?!
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mdmjuggler — 18 years ago(June 28, 2007 09:54 PM)
You still do not understand the issue in regard to the Masons. They do not make a vow to Lucifer, nor do they hold secret meetings (they are public). Also, you have to believe in a higher power, be it God, etc. The one thing you cannot be is an atheist. If you do a deeper research in the society, you'd find out that a lot of this Masons are Satanists stuff is actually a lot of people blowing steam to knock down a group that stays true to their beliefs - helping others.
Also, I believe Spanky passed away in 2005 (or another member of "Our Gang.") I do know, however, it was not Alfalfa.
As far as blackface, while I don't agree with it, I also understand it's a part of our history. Unfortunately, we still face that every day: And it's every group.
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armigerous-1 — 18 years ago(June 22, 2007 03:31 AM)
I am a former Senior Counselor in the Order of DeMolayand the sister order for girls is called the Rainbow Girls.not the Triangles..in any event,every boy in my chapter was a practicing Christian and we honored the martyrdom of Jacques DeMolay,Guy of Auvergne and others who were burned during the middle ages for alleged 'heresy'.there was nothing satanic about it.Is there no help for the widow's son?
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donjohnson2 — 18 years ago(June 23, 2007 09:38 AM)
"African Americans / Blacks (24/7 because have always been a society that people from other races desire to either be like or desire to humiliate in some deadly unhumorous way.)"
HUH??? There will always be people of every race that want to emulate another race at times (like hiphop performers), but NO WAY OVERALL "people from other races desire to be like blacks." That's just TOTAL BS. -
hanazdad2 — 18 years ago(December 14, 2007 10:06 PM)
In regards to the racism. I look at it in a couple of ways. Since I consider myself a liberal and only slightly racist I would like to view the films in its entirety and see them for the flawed non politically correct art that they were for the time. Now in regards to me being racist, I feel every single person is racist and anyone who says they are not are liars, closet racist, stupid and any combination of those plus being racist. Maybe I'm not slightly racist more like somewhat racist. Whether Carl was more or less racist then others of his time, who can say. But it was a time where racism was not only acceptable but promoted. The films prove this.
To understand the racist nature and history and the racist past that was so acceptable in this free and equal America I live in, that viewing these films is necessary to understand it. I was born after Brown vs the BOE of Topeka, KS but I lived in a time where Governors and Presidential candidates would run on platforms of "Segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever" or whatever racist ignorants in the South used to say, school busing, all white college teams in the South, closed neighborhoods. And don't think segregation does not exist today. School boundaries are always based on racism. The Masters golf tournament club. A million examples.
I was involved in a national collegiate athletic competition (in Kansas). And a friend of mine from the fine institution of Auburn U was explaining to me an ignorant kid from Cali why the races need to be kept apart and why we were so foolish in CA. Basically I was told that I didn't understand what the black citizens were like where he comes from and how they keep fraternities segregated and again why. ("They have their own frats to join" Jim Crow??) Never did understand. He was from Southern Georgia near Florida (??) He hated Atlanta. And he was wrong about CA too. We have a long and proud history of racism. The very racist Sons and daughters of the Golden West were powerful and racist here. And before WWII and the migration of large numbers of blacks here there were plenty of Native Americans, Mexicans and Chinese to be racist to. Oroville, CA used to actually have hunting contests of Native Americans as sport into the 20th century. The last "wild" American, Isshi's last relatives were hunted and killed in this way. Legally done, they were illegal poachers and squatters and thieves (stealing chickens, supposedly)
Anyways there is value to be learned from the stereotypes of the past at least in how the white movie moguls viewed minorities, Step-an Fetchit, Charlie Chan. This was a mirror reflection of how democratic America viewed non white Americans. It is view of how all Americans are rooted in racist values and how white America promoted and continued this racism to future generations.
I understand why many Americans should not view this past. Ignorant racist idiots will emulate the racism as being real American behavior. But for me it is a tool for how not to behave and why.
The only time I ever got to see the great Hattie McDaniel as "Beuhlah" was on an educational station. I have even purchased the infamous but historical "Birth of a Nation" to understand why Americans were so racist all thru history. You know KKK and all that good old Southern America stuff. Race is the biggest problem in America today. It will end up destroying our country. We were the last western country to abolish slavery. And that fact still haunts us today and is the basis for hatred and many political, economical, educational and social problems now. It will be the basis for our next civil war. Like the Czar of Russia who was afraid to arm the serfs for the army the US was scared to admit blacks as combat soldiers. As a country if I treated a race the way America has treated and still treats the blacks I wouldn't want to arm them either. We still fail miserably at education and employment.
So you are right it was not Carl. It was all America. But I disagree that it was the writers. Hollywood is a minature America. They portray life as Americans see themselves. Maybe they portrayed racism as humorous. But the only fiction there is the humor. The racism was real and widespread. -
quincy_gaines — 14 years ago(July 29, 2011 06:37 PM)
Hi shlubby,
The only people that would call people like me "certifiable" are those who havve not cared to do the homework I did in researching "what really happened to Alfalfa." Honestly, I dont care what people think about me. I'm here sharing freely.
Call me what you want to, because in the end I die alone. I'm just being a drop in the bucket trying to help Alfalfa stop his lie. What you do with this info is 100% on you to decide. I don't care. It would be great to no longer be the lone voice.
"Life is big. Take full advantage." - Carl Dean "Alfalfa" Switzer-Eldridge, (January 4th, 2005)