(What I'm saying here below is quite long and lengthy, but EXTREMELY well worth the read, so please take a few minutes t
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saraisdumb2 — 18 years ago(June 11, 2007 11:26 PM)
Thank you so much!!! this sounds so crazy!! i thi5b4nk this quincy guy most def needs some meds!!! i read everything and it is ALL a crock of bull!!! gheez do you really think people believe the nonsense that you write?!
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mdmjuggler — 18 years ago(June 28, 2007 09:54 PM)
You still do not understand the issue in regard to the Masons. They do not make a vow to Lucifer, nor do they hold secret meetings (they are public). Also, you have to believe in a higher power, be it God, etc. The one thing you cannot be is an atheist. If you do a deeper research in the society, you'd find out that a lot of this Masons are Satanists stuff is actually a lot of people blowing steam to knock down a group that stays true to their beliefs - helping others.
Also, I believe Spanky passed away in 2005 (or another member of "Our Gang.") I do know, however, it was not Alfalfa.
As far as blackface, while I don't agree with it, I also understand it's a part of our history. Unfortunately, we still face that every day: And it's every group.
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armigerous-1 — 18 years ago(June 22, 2007 03:31 AM)
I am a former Senior Counselor in the Order of DeMolayand the sister order for girls is called the Rainbow Girls.not the Triangles..in any event,every boy in my chapter was a practicing Christian and we honored the martyrdom of Jacques DeMolay,Guy of Auvergne and others who were burned during the middle ages for alleged 'heresy'.there was nothing satanic about it.Is there no help for the widow's son?
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donjohnson2 — 18 years ago(June 23, 2007 09:38 AM)
"African Americans / Blacks (24/7 because have always been a society that people from other races desire to either be like or desire to humiliate in some deadly unhumorous way.)"
HUH??? There will always be people of every race that want to emulate another race at times (like hiphop performers), but NO WAY OVERALL "people from other races desire to be like blacks." That's just TOTAL BS. -
hanazdad2 — 18 years ago(December 14, 2007 10:06 PM)
In regards to the racism. I look at it in a couple of ways. Since I consider myself a liberal and only slightly racist I would like to view the films in its entirety and see them for the flawed non politically correct art that they were for the time. Now in regards to me being racist, I feel every single person is racist and anyone who says they are not are liars, closet racist, stupid and any combination of those plus being racist. Maybe I'm not slightly racist more like somewhat racist. Whether Carl was more or less racist then others of his time, who can say. But it was a time where racism was not only acceptable but promoted. The films prove this.
To understand the racist nature and history and the racist past that was so acceptable in this free and equal America I live in, that viewing these films is necessary to understand it. I was born after Brown vs the BOE of Topeka, KS but I lived in a time where Governors and Presidential candidates would run on platforms of "Segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever" or whatever racist ignorants in the South used to say, school busing, all white college teams in the South, closed neighborhoods. And don't think segregation does not exist today. School boundaries are always based on racism. The Masters golf tournament club. A million examples.
I was involved in a national collegiate athletic competition (in Kansas). And a friend of mine from the fine institution of Auburn U was explaining to me an ignorant kid from Cali why the races need to be kept apart and why we were so foolish in CA. Basically I was told that I didn't understand what the black citizens were like where he comes from and how they keep fraternities segregated and again why. ("They have their own frats to join" Jim Crow??) Never did understand. He was from Southern Georgia near Florida (??) He hated Atlanta. And he was wrong about CA too. We have a long and proud history of racism. The very racist Sons and daughters of the Golden West were powerful and racist here. And before WWII and the migration of large numbers of blacks here there were plenty of Native Americans, Mexicans and Chinese to be racist to. Oroville, CA used to actually have hunting contests of Native Americans as sport into the 20th century. The last "wild" American, Isshi's last relatives were hunted and killed in this way. Legally done, they were illegal poachers and squatters and thieves (stealing chickens, supposedly)
Anyways there is value to be learned from the stereotypes of the past at least in how the white movie moguls viewed minorities, Step-an Fetchit, Charlie Chan. This was a mirror reflection of how democratic America viewed non white Americans. It is view of how all Americans are rooted in racist values and how white America promoted and continued this racism to future generations.
I understand why many Americans should not view this past. Ignorant racist idiots will emulate the racism as being real American behavior. But for me it is a tool for how not to behave and why.
The only time I ever got to see the great Hattie McDaniel as "Beuhlah" was on an educational station. I have even purchased the infamous but historical "Birth of a Nation" to understand why Americans were so racist all thru history. You know KKK and all that good old Southern America stuff. Race is the biggest problem in America today. It will end up destroying our country. We were the last western country to abolish slavery. And that fact still haunts us today and is the basis for hatred and many political, economical, educational and social problems now. It will be the basis for our next civil war. Like the Czar of Russia who was afraid to arm the serfs for the army the US was scared to admit blacks as combat soldiers. As a country if I treated a race the way America has treated and still treats the blacks I wouldn't want to arm them either. We still fail miserably at education and employment.
So you are right it was not Carl. It was all America. But I disagree that it was the writers. Hollywood is a minature America. They portray life as Americans see themselves. Maybe they portrayed racism as humorous. But the only fiction there is the humor. The racism was real and widespread. -
quincy_gaines — 14 years ago(July 29, 2011 06:37 PM)
Hi shlubby,
The only people that would call people like me "certifiable" are those who havve not cared to do the homework I did in researching "what really happened to Alfalfa." Honestly, I dont care what people think about me. I'm here sharing freely.
Call me what you want to, because in the end I die alone. I'm just being a drop in the bucket trying to help Alfalfa stop his lie. What you do with this info is 100% on you to decide. I don't care. It would be great to no longer be the lone voice.
"Life is big. Take full advantage." - Carl Dean "Alfalfa" Switzer-Eldridge, (January 4th, 2005) -
quincy_gaines — 14 years ago(July 29, 2011 07:36 PM)
Dear La Scandals, I'm honored that you read my posts! Your articles on Alfalfa's death posted on your site back in 2003 are what fueled my research into playing detective. To find the conclusion I came across, get the coroners autopsy report inquest hearing transcripts, get the photos if you can! Also, map out the locations of everything mentioned in those documents, include the masonic factor which has a nearby temple and although, you won't find him living as I have, you will find proof that supports that. Even look online and you'll find post 1959 career images of him and also an image of him as a senior. You will also find that he owned a casting agency and served in a position on the Fresno city council. He gave me a recent photo of himself. What ive shared here I have done so under the understanding that he wanted people to now know the truth. He told me I wasn't the only one that found him! He also went on tv to reveal himself back in 1995, but with the agent of the internet, undoing lies was difficult and he settled with the reality he gave himself. it's all fact, and ive been helping him undo his lies for the past six years! Facesearch.com has the photos that prove he lived past 1959. He stopped hiding years ago! Btw, google "Our Gang Casting Agency Fresno" thats the company he owned in recent years. Look it up and have a ball with this info. It will impact you as it did me. Btw, my claims about freemasons are also facts I have witnessed first hand and learned from those who are present and former members. I tried to becom e one of them, but i don't want any part of a fraternity that promotes racism from withinor sexism by keeping their women in the dark. And blacks like me should be allowed as a freemason without being sent to P tune prince hall.
All of this is fact. Have fun researching it as
"Life is big. Take full advantage." - Carl Dean "Alfalfa" Switzer-Eldridge, (January 4th, 2005)