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Judgemenot — 18 years ago(November 04, 2007 10:51 AM)
Hello again, I am really sorry that I have been sucked in into this war of words, but please believe me when I say, just like you I used to read this forum and it was fun and active, but this year a small group of women who we now know were motivated by lies told by an ex moderator, who lost her dream job and her contact to her obsession has turned this board to a mud sling match.
I am guilty of getting down an2000d dirty but sometimes you have to fight ignorance and hate.
If you read a lie and you don't know the the whole story it may lead you to a false assumption which is what the motive behind all the personal attacks on here are.
Always remember motives will lead you to the real reason.
For months I read all the horrid posts by Indigo Clown or the Un educated Wolf who thinks she is God because she has a desk job in a Government building and she is dating a cop.
I had enough so I jumped in to have a conversation but as in anyone else who stands up for Jay they are greeted by hate and rage and more BS.
I think IMDb moderators deleted most of their false and hateful posts as you can see.
I hope we can once again move on and talk about the name that this board is reserved for.
Have you read about Adopt a Native Elder program that is so important to Mr. Tavare.
His work for this program has brought this wonderful charity center stage and many many people have adopted an elder because of him just as I have.
He was instrumental in helping ANE to raise half million dollars last year in one weekend at the annual rug sale at UTAH!
Anyways it' nice to speak with someone who dose not jump all over me with rude and hateful remarks.
Take care.
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Aethelflaed-918 — 18 years ago(November 06, 2007 07:29 PM)
Im sorry that I didnt get to reply to your post sooner Im afraid it rather got lost in the post!
In answer to your question, yes I am acquainted with the charity work that Jay Tavare has undertaken with regard to the Adopt a Native Elder programme. You seem to know Jay Tavare quite well therefore perhaps you can tell me, does his charity work mainly focus on the Native American community or does it encompass other areas of society also?
I did manage to see your post earlier today before it disappeared and per your request I clicked on the names of Indigo Cloud and Unforgiving Wolf to see how often they have posted. I then, in the interests of fairness, clicked on your name only to find that you too have posted as much as they! Ive afraid in the verbal war of attrition that a number of you appear to have entered into, willingly or otherwise, there are certain individuals that seem to be as guilty as one another. Who started all of this I cannot say as I do not have access to that information, therefore I can only conclude that on this point, at least, you are all equally culpable. Im sorry that I cannot see it from your perspective but I have to be fair about this. Im sure that you understand. -
Judgemenot — 18 years ago(November 06, 2007 09:26 PM)
I not being rude when I say, I don't really care what you think. I have been on this board only for a month or so where they have been at this tit for tat for a whole year and no matter who has come to defend Jay they get the mob treatment by the small group of liars that you are now talking to.
The difference between I and them is I admit to being a fan? What is their excuse???
They call Jay a con man of the spirit, I say why spend 5 years lurking on a guy you look so poorly at??? It makes no sense, maybe you see more than I do, but I have yet to understand how you can have an obsession with a man you call so many names and accuse of so much??
What do you think is their motives?
Find that answer and you will see through all the BS here.
You seem to be wise, I don't think you need any help so good luck on your own.
If I don't like someone I never think of them, or study them or read everything I can find on them. I certainly do not go to their forums and spend my days typing away speculating on every little trivial informaiton I can get my hand on???
Just a thought.
I already told you I stood up when I had enough. I am not here to answer questions. I told you if you really want answers you are in the wrong place and to be honest are you a Jay fan? What m238ade you notice Jay? What do you think of his acting?
You say you are aware of his charity work so you do know and have read about him. The list of all his charities are on both his my space page and his fan site.
I repeat again there is nothing to join on the fan site. If you don't post no one will see your IP address, so don't worry.
Out of 215,000 hits there has yet to be one abuse of any posters IP address.
So don't buy their lie they don't come over there because they know not one thing they claim here would stand up to the d5b4ata the Mods and the real fans have on Mr. Tavare.
Oh the funny thing is the moderators already know who they are behind the fake names on here. So it would make no difference if they had a IP address or not.lol
I am done with this mob I have no more to say for now.
Hate will never win.
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IndigoCloud — 18 years ago(November 06, 2007 10:09 PM)
Sorry Aethelflaed, it seems Judgemenot is chafing and in a right foul mood, so I'll answer your question.
According to his site, Jay's other charitable contributions include work with Habitat for Humanity, Wolfdog and Samoyed Rescue groups. -
Aethelflaed-918 — 18 years ago(November 07, 2007 03:57 PM)
No problem IndigoCloud, I knew as I was typing my answer that Judgemenot was not going to be impressed but ultimately I can only tell it as I see it. And if Sofia no longer wishes to talk to me then that is a shame but so be it. Of course that doesn't mean to say that I won't be replying to her post at some point!
Thank you for the further information regarding Jay Tavare's other charitable activities. -
IndigoCloud — 18 years ago(November 07, 2007 10:07 PM)
You're welcome Athelflaed. You might also be interested to know that (though you may have read it somewhere already) Jay has been credited both on his website and in interviews as being a screenwriter, as well as writing non-fiction articles for magazines. Exactly what he's written, sold and/or published and by whom are complete mysteries. I've asked these questions before and no one seems to have any knowledge on the subject, not even an inkling. Something else to ponder over.
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IndigoCloud — 18 years ago(November 08, 2007 07:12 AM)
Only on this forum. I've never posted anything on Jay's site, though I remember reading a post on there from someone asking the same question and it wasn't answered directly. I can understand not wanting to give out details about something that's in the works and waiting to be accepted by a company, but to my knowledge there hasn't been any mention of any writings past or present, nor plans for any future projects.
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Judgemenot — 18 years ago(November 11, 2007 11:02 PM)
I have read an article written by Jay Tavare a few years ago where he had interviewed Jackie Chan in Venice magazine for one of his up coming films and it was well written and very interesting.
I will ask RRF if she can get that interview and post it.
I had also read in Cowboys and Indians last year, where Marcus Nispel the director of PATHFINDER says, Jay re wrote his part of Black Wing and I quote : Jay did a great service to the film.
He goes on to say how Jay changed the part for the better and how he would not play the stereo type angry red man.
The article can be found on the JayTavare.com under the Magz section. -
Soccer_lady — 18 years ago(November 12, 2007 09:25 AM)
If I'm not mistaken, Jay said that he was a part of re-writing parts it in the interview with NAICA.
That what you saw in the movie is not the whole thing.
Jay had a lot more scene's before they cut in it.
From what I've heard in the interview, the whole character has been changed by Jay. -
Soccer_lady — 18 years ago(November 13, 2007 08:00 AM)
Honey bun I am in the know biz. I know because I spend the time learning the facts, something your mob is lacking. I speak to folks who know Jay and have met him for real. I also don't use my own name on the fan site as most Jaybirds.
If you would make friends instead of enemies you could have known all that I do too, which by the way has been posted or talked about on the Tavern at one point or other. I have also had a chat with his manager Mr. Greenstone, to make sure I had my facts right. So you can say I've done my home work.
That is why you lot are no match for me. lol
Also what I know it's not personal, it's his life as an actor and writer. I do not intrude in other peoples private life, something you lot should practice more often.
Finally I don't really like cowards like you who hide behind fake names and try to spread lies and who speculate on other folks lives. So don't bother asking me to answer anything that I have not shared. You clear on that loser!
They can't beat you on that one, can they, LOL. -
Judgemenot — 18 years ago(November 14, 2007 06:22 AM)
According to his Manager he has written several screen plays that he has optioned over the years and he has made a living from it beside his acting.
Mr. Tavare has also written for several magazines and is in fact is a published writer. I have the copy of Venice Magazine and the interview with Jackie Chan and his manager confirmed that in fact Mr. Tavare did both the interview and the writing.
Now there are many reasons why a screen play may be optioned or bought by a production company and not be made into a film. I have even read that some studios or production houses may buy a screen play so it may not clash with the one they are doing or it may be shelved because of the current affairs and the story's sensitivity towards it.
Who knows exactly but there are so may reasons a screen play may or may not make it to the screen.
That does not make the writer none existent. it only means you once again don't have your story right or all the data to completely understand Hollywood and the way things work.
Then again looking at all your assumptions, WHAT'S NEW! lol -
Soccer_lady — 18 years ago(November 14, 2007 12:34 PM)
As for the screenplay excuse.. what a way to make a living, eh? "I just wrote and sold another screenplay that's just like something else they're making so it will never get filmed!!! YES!!" .. uh.. sure. Sounds like yet another excuse among a litany of falsehoods.
Can you prove that??