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    lutherpons — 18 years ago(May 05, 2007 03:24 PM)

    A little late but
    Liv was the hands down favorite to win the Oscar for Face to Face in 1976. Liv was even tapped to present the prior award (Best Actor). When Faye Dunaway won for Network, the surprise was evident on all 5 of the actresses nominated. Even Faye looked shocked and said "I didn't expect this just yet" It was difficult choice to make in 1976 as both were superb.
    I've often heard that the real reason Liv did not win was theb68 industry pressure (due in part to the influence of MPAA chief Jack Valenti) not to give a major award to a foriegn language film.
    I'm not sure if that is true. However, the 49th Academy Awards was the first time since his rein at MPAA that Valenti was not asked to particpate in the Award show. This could be because of lingering animosity between him and producer William Friedkin.
    Also of note:
    Watching the program recently I was struck by the fact that Mrs. Peter Finch (who was called up by Paddy Chayevsky to accept for her late husband) was relegated to a back row and that in getting up she had to pass an obviously displeased Valenti in the same row!

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      dfpfaff — 18 years ago(May 22, 2007 07:33 AM)

      Where could you be watching this recently, wasn't this before vhs, I'd love to get my hands on older academy award programs

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        HelenaHatcheese — 18 years ago(May 30, 2007 10:26 PM)

        I beleive you are right. Liv was also the favorite because she did not receive a nomination for Scenes From A Marriage. This despite a petition signed by many in the industry including 4 of the actresses who were eventually nominated.
        Your mentioning the show made me dig out my copy and watch it again. It was much more streamlined than the year before. This was due to Billy Friedkin's taking over the reigns.

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            Badfellah — 18 years ago(September 11, 2007 03:18 PM)

            The greatest with Liv, is that one 100% knows she was/is a real actress. She is so extremely different in real life, than the roles she has played. Other than her and Brando, it is really hard to tell just how much many others really are "acting"!?
            I have not seen many of the classic great actors and actresses in interviews. But today, one gets to see them all the time. Time and time again I see the exact same person giving the interview, as the one the person just played on screen. But I think most of us both agree and know this already.
            As far as I know, I don't think she has ever played anyone similar to her own self. But then again, just like with Brando, acting has always been seen on as a challenge for her. Only selected few do pick films almost solely on challenge.
            Other than that, I agree with the other posters. The "crap" roles ruin much for Dunaway. But even without them, I think Liv is a level above. Liv is in the elite class. One of very, very few which can be debated as the16d0 best.

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              BlueGreen — 18 years ago(September 13, 2007 04:55 PM)

              You bet Liv "wins"! In fact, I think there's no comparison between the two.
              (No offence to Dunaway or her fans.)

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                  arubi2 — 14 years ago(August 01, 2011 04:52 AM)

                  Liv by miles and miles.

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                    teadm — 14 years ago(December 16, 2011 05:25 PM)

                    To the OP: Dunaway is an overacting, talentless hack - comparing her with Liv is absolutely insane!

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                      harrymovie123 — 13 years ago(April 08, 2013 11:45 AM)

                      Liv Ullmann by miles. Probably my favourite actress.
                      I always thought Dunaway over-acted a little in Network and Bonnie & Clyde. She was still good though.

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                        zhu_bernard — 12 years ago(August 25, 2013 07:51 PM)

                        i would have hang myself to answer that question, love them both

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                          HeartMonger — 12 years ago(April 04, 2014 12:55 AM)

                          Well it really doesn't matter - as this user who originally posted this thread, is nothing but a troll who goes from Faye board to Faye board causing trouble just because he didn't like her performance in "Supergirl." Nobody pay attention.
                          "All I want in life is a thirty share and a twenty rating."

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