Is 'Dream of Desire' the bio to read?
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metalman091 — 16 years ago(October 13, 2009 05:36 AM)
Oh yes William Haines, Popular screen star and later a successful decorator.
Of course Valentino never left a paper trail behind to confirm that he was gay and neither did his wives. A lot of people believe this stuff because they want to believe it. -
annadane — 16 years ago(October 13, 2009 09:51 PM)
Its not even a paper trailno one from the 20s had anything of the sort to say. In fact the only one I've ever heard say Rudy was gay was Alice Terry in the 60s (conveniently when some trashy bios had started spreading that) to whats his faceAnthony Slide. By Terry was the widow of Rex Ingramand the two of them literally destroyed their careers trying to one up him (including 'discovering' Ramon Novarro, and sticking him in films like "The Arab").
Jean Acker was definitely a lesbian, and letters and her actions verify as such (Nazimova wrote she was not happy about the quickie marriage and that she would destroy her). BUT Natacha lived until the 60s, and remarried a man who looked like Rudy, wrote many letters and a few books, and had people around her. Not a one of them says she was even bi (though there is a slight opening for Mecerdes de Costa, like one could make about Andre Davenunlikely but maaaaaybe once). In fact Natacha told a friend she 'despised' lesbians in the 40s (ironic because many of her friends were as such).
If Rudy had a ton of male affairs or gay inklings there would be some references, something. As it standsnot one shred of evidence or even first hand accounts from anyone believable (I dont count Terry or Herbetrot believable about anything). -
metalman091 — 16 years ago(October 15, 2009 06:01 PM)
I agree that there would be some references by his contemporaries if he were gay. It's the same kind of thing when you read about such stars as Cary Grant, Gary Cooper, Tyrone Power, Burt Lancaster and Barbara Stanwyck. There was never a trace of evidence during their life time and most of their friends have denied the rumors.
But people still ignore the lack of evidence for more sensational gossip. -
metalman091 — 16 years ago(October 17, 2009 06:41 PM)
People are idiots sometimes. Correctiona lot of the time.
That is indeed very true.
It does seem to apply to every star. They go from major stars to the stars who are little known today. A few authors go on the idea that every Hollywood star was gay, and people eat it up. -
annadane — 16 years ago(December 06, 2009 11:43 PM)
This guy is crazy as a loonlook at his mindset:
http://www.forgetthetalkies.com/2009/12/dream-of-kookiness-david-bret- and.html -
falconlairRV — 14 years ago(July 02, 2011 04:37 PM)
The Rudolph Valentino Society is also run by a known fugitive named Katie Lynn Birchard, whom goes by the name, "Hala Pickford." Birchard has an active arrest warrant in the State Of California. The warrant is from a failure to appear for contempt of court charges stemming from a libel and defamation of character lawsuit that Birchard lost in 2010. Her opinions, such as "Books To Avoid" should be taken with a grain of salt given the fact that she has a well-documented history of libel & slander.
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hala-20 — 14 years ago(July 07, 2011 08:13 PM)
FalconRV or whatever it is is Bretso yeah he wouldn't say bad things about his own book.
Anyone wanting snippets of Affairs Valentino to prove those reviews are false just look here:
http://books.google.com/books?id=27lzeTobL6QC&printsec=frontcover& amp;dq=evelyn+zumaya&hl=en&ei=jGsWTpr8F4m6sQO0qfXNDQ&sa=X& amp;oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAA#v=on epage&q&f=false -
metalman091 — 13 years ago(February 27, 2013 12:46 AM)
An intelligent insight into how the rumors of Valentino's sexuality began, and how often creeps like David Bret got their inspiration.
http://rudolphvalentino.org/how-rudolph-valentino-became-gay/ -
Falconeer — 11 years ago(June 21, 2014 08:08 AM)
That book is trashy sensationalism. It is the on the same level of "National Enquirer" and other rags that print wildly distorted versions of the truth, along with fabricated lies. The book to read is "Dark Lover." you know when you read it, that the author attempts to trace the life of the real Rudolph Valentino, with no silly exaggerations. 5b4The author takes the time to explain what was based on rumor, and what is fact. "Dream of Desire" is very disrespectful to the memory of a legend, but if you like to read scandal rags, you might get a kick out of it. but please don't take it seriously..
"IMdB; where 14 year olds can act like jaded 40 year old critics' -
metalman091 — 9 years ago(December 11, 2016 12:33 AM)
The book is a joke that some take seriously. Bret claims that Rudolph Valentino and William Boyd had an affair. This is presented with no eyewitness accounts or any other proof, no, it's just thrown out there and we have to believe it.
Other than playing a bit part in THE YOUNG RAJAH [1922] did Boyd have any other connection to Valentino?