Charisma Carpenter
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ItsEddieHaskellBeyotch — 10 years ago(May 25, 2015 05:32 PM)
You'll have to explain how that proves she was fired for being pregnant.
Her pregnancy meant a major re-write for season four as opposed to the season four that they had scheduled. Whedon (grudgingly) re-wrote season for because of Charisma's pregnancy, and he got in a huff when she told him about it(apparently at an inopportune time) thereby forcing the change to accommodate her pregnancy. When she returned, she found out all Cordelia was going to be was in a coma thereby creating more conflict between the two.
She wasn't even supposed to appear in the one episode she was in during season five. That was her 'doing it for the fans' so to speak since she and Whedon were still on the outs at that point. "You're Welcome" in season five was actually supposed to guest star Sarah Michelle Gellar as Buffy but she declined thus the switch to end Cordelia's story and why there was a Fake Shemp Buffy in the episode "The Girl in Question".
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NVDan — 10 years ago(May 26, 2015 01:29 AM)
Her pregnancy meant a major re-write for season four as opposed to the season four that they had scheduled. Whedon (grudgingly) re-wrote season for because of Charisma's pregnancy, and he got in a huff when she told him about it(apparently at an inopportune time) thereby forcing the change to accommodate her pregnancy. When she returned, she found out all Cordelia was going to be was in a coma thereby creating more conflict between the two.
She wasn't even supposed to appear in the one episode she was in during season five. That was her 'doing it for the fans' so to speak since she and Whedon were still on the outs at that point. "You're Welcome" in season five was actually supposed to guest star Sarah Michelle Gellar as Buffy but she declined thus the switch to end Cordelia's story and why there was a Fake Shemp Buffy in the episode "The Girl in Question".
Source? Because it sounds like pure speculation.
Sorry, sometimes my wife forgets that she is not an alien from outer space.
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ItsEddieHaskellBeyotch — 10 years ago(August 17, 2015 07:41 PM)
Bullsh!t. You 're just LAZY and just want to believe what you want to instead of seeking it out for yourself. It's all on Youtube in multiple videos and since you're such a fan, the account has been chronicled at length on multiple sites. But just be the contrarian bitch that you wanna be.
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NVDan — 10 years ago(August 20, 2015 07:50 AM)
Eddie's quick with the personal attacks.
I've never understood why people think personal attacks are effective. Of course, I've never understood the appeal of trolling.
Sorry, sometimes my wife forgets that she is not an alien from outer space.
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ItsEddieHaskellBeyotch — 10 years ago(August 20, 2015 08:11 AM)
Eddie's quick with the personal attacks.
Oh, so you ladies are a tag-team now. You'd think for people who worship Whedon so heavily, you'd be caught up on a subject like this.
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preachcaleb — 10 years ago(August 20, 2015 08:36 AM)
Oh, so you ladies a7ecre a tag-team now.
You think being called a lady is an insult? No wonder you have a problem with Joss. You're still stuck in caveman times. Gonna call me gay, next?
Welcome to the 21st century, son. Join us? You'll like it here. We've got Iphones, blu rays, streaming video, and all kinds of neat stuff.
You'd think for people who worship Whedon so heavily, you'd be caught up on a subject like this.
So, that implies you're even more obsessed with Joss than us, right? Since you know so much more about what's going on with him.
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ItsEddieHaskellBeyotch — 10 years ago(August 20, 2015 08:10 AM)
I totally understand. You can't back up your claim so you attack me instead.
You're lazy. I can't help you with that. And the fact that you're here, like 24/7 definitely says you have no life outside these message boards whatsoever. You'd think someone with so much time on their hands would actually do the research. Silly me for talking sense to a Whedon apologist.
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NVDan — 10 years ago(August 20, 2015 08:47 AM)
You got to love it when a post is edited after someone has replied.
And the fact that you're here, like 24/7 definitely says you have no life outside these message boards whatsoever.
It appears you post here more often than I do.
You'd think someone with so much time on their hands would actually do the research.
You'd think so, but for some reason you don't. Or perhaps you just can't back up your claim.
Silly me for talking sense to a Whedon apologist.
Interesting comment. Nothing you've posted could be called "talking sense" and I'm certainly not a "Whedon apologist".
Sorry, sometimes my wife forgets that she is not an alien fr2000om outer space.
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robertwaynemoore — 10 years ago(September 07, 2015 02:13 AM)
Charisma's firing was due to two things. Or two primary things.
First, she requested - and received - an extended leave of absence in Season Three that required extensive rewriting of the last 6 or so episodes of the season. She returned at the end and they had extensive plans for her in Season Four.
Second, she returned in Season Four, but pregnant. She did not tell them she was pregnant until she was pretty far along. As a result, they had to first write her out of Season Four as planned (it involved her being a lot more of an action character, which they had been building up to in Season Three before she left for her hiatus - she did a lot of training with Angel). Then, they had to write her back in, only pregnant. So she essentially messed up the planning of a season and a half of the show.
I loved Cordy, but I completely understand why they had to fire her. You have to have cast members you can depend on. They gave her a break in Season Three, despite the fact that her sudden departure weakened what had been the strongest season of ANGEL. Instead of enhancing the show, she was off with the Grosalog (or however it is spelled) on a vacation.
I thought if anything they went out of their way to sort of patch things up with her, by having her Season Five farewell episode. I was intensely angry Cordy left the show, but my anger was directed at Charisma. She shouldn't have taken time off in Season Three and she should have told Whedon she was pregnant the second she found out.
I am, by the way, about halfway through writing my second book on Whedon (I was the main editor of THE JOSS WHEDON COMPANION, the first book that attempted a comprehensive survey of the entirety of Joss Whedon's career, including his TV, comics, film, and other work) and am trying to decide how much of stuff like this to put into it. It is more of a thematic dictionary (so there will be articles on things like Personal Redemption in his various projects, but I don't think I'll do an exhaustive listing of characters. If you look at THE JOSS WHEDON COMPANION and look at my essays (I have three in all, though I either chose or solicited or in a couple of instances extensively rewrote all the essays in the book [one of the more interesting articles in the book was by someone else, but their prose was so bad I spent over 30 hours rewriting it - I thought the essay was too good to leave out, but not up to snuff as it stood]). Right now I think I'll not put any of the more gossipy stuff I know about, but might mention that "conflicts" led to a decreasing involvement of Charisma in the show. My one big regret with the book is that I had submitted a wish list of people I'd like to have interviewed, but was too big of a coward to actually interview anyone. Luckily a major Whedon scholar, who had not previously done interviews either, took it on with most of the early interviews and did just a killer job. Originally the interview with Harry Groener (The Mayor) was supposed to be about 15 minutes, and his agent didn't want it to be that long. But she did such a killer job that Groener allowed the clock to go way over 30 minutes, and the result was a great interview. We also had an interview with Monica Baccarin that was unusable. We wanted something substantial, but her agent was arranging 5 minute interview leading up to that really bad SF show she was on. I didn't even considering including it in the book. I'm so glad that HOMELAND and GOTHAM gave her some great work. I still have hope that she'll turn out to be the original Wasp on ANT-MAN. It could happen! If they found a way of pulling her out of that quantum whatever she is stuck in, she could play the mother of the Evangeline Lilly Wasp (assuming that they weren't just teasing us in the film). -
ItsEddieHaskellBeyotch — 10 years ago(September 07, 2015 10:42 PM)
Dude, I was totally with you till you started shilling yourself. WTF,man? Thanks for a well written explanation of the subject at hand though it still only favors the Whedon side of things.
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flyerzzrul — 10 years ago(November 30, 2015 09:45 PM)
I thought if anything they went out of their way to sort of patch things up with her, by having her Season Five farewell episode.
That wasn't Joss's plan, that episode was for Buffy but Sarah couldn't do it. If she did Cordy never would have gotten closure