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    Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Joss Whedon


    Capt-Cupcake — 10 years ago(May 05, 2015 06:35 AM)

    The internet is a breeding ground for hate filled hate-sacks. Joss Whedon, a filmmaker who has not only made quality movies and TV but has created one strong female character after another is now targeted by evil feminists whom are filled to the brim with hate all because he gave Black Widow a relationship. Why aren't they pissed at 'what he did to Hulk'? 'Taking away Hulk's strong masculinity by having him fall for a WOMAN??' GASP!
    Look at the men: Hawkeye is married. Tony has Pepper. Thor has Jane. But give Black Widow a guy and suddenly it's misogynistic?
    And THIS is why I HATE feminists. I believe in EQUALITY, not 'feminism', because believe me they are NOT the same thing at all. Feminists are hateful.

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      ladive — 10 years ago(May 05, 2015 07:34 AM)

      The people crying sexist are insane. Don't try to figure it out. Let them dig their holes.
      I'd hate to be an actual feminist these days with all these bullying impostors. Believe it or not, there are still some good ones out there that haven't succumbed to the dementia. But they don't yell as loud so it's sometimes hard to find them.
      You CAN be a feminist and not hate men.

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        glass_hopper — 10 years ago(May 05, 2015 06:31 PM)

        ladive, you (and a very small few) are the voice of reason on this crazy board

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          OhNooos — 9 years ago(February 06, 2017 10:05 PM)

          You CAN be a feminist and not hate men.
          Agreed! Feminism is not about hating or about trying to be superior to anyone. It's a call for equal rights for all - men, women, and others, nothing more. Some of that other stuff is just warped and has nothing to do with feminism.

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            goodbyeenemyairship — 10 years ago(May 06, 2015 08:11 AM)

            Feminists are hateful.
            Lumping them altogether is part of the same issue you speak out against.
            It's essentially tribalism and it's perhaps unavoidable with people (if history is any guide).
            Feminists can be hateful, just as Christians can - just as a mail carrier can - just as a green eyed person can - these are only groups because we need to catalog things in our mind to keep track, put a label on it & file it away for future reference.
            The problem isn't a particular group, but just people in general. We are animals. We are aggressive. And those suppressing their aggression the most will unleash it in other, strange ways. Just like a sexually repressed person will develop strange sexual fetishes, wires get crossed.

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              OhNooos — 9 years ago(February 06, 2017 10:07 PM)

              We are animals. We are aggressive. And those suppressing their aggression the most will unleash it in other, strange ways
              Repression doesn't work, but aggression doesn't have to stay, either. Remaining silent in the face of oppression and bias is like giving a tacit agreement that what is happening is ok. People get aggressive when they feel threatened. So, those speaking out need to do so without hate themselves, without attacking.

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                ddsdestri — 10 years ago(May 06, 2015 06:20 PM)

                This hate pile-on plus death threats phenomenon is hardly exclusive to feminism. It's all over the damn internet, it's indeed why I hate the internet myself but don't come and claim it's only feminists who do it cause I call beep on that.
                There are retarded trolls everywhere in the world, in every class and group of people apparently and this hate phenomenon on the internet is just proving b68it

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                    ddsdestri — 10 years ago(May 06, 2015 07:51 PM)

                    specific laid out reasons
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                    illogical reasoning
                    don't exactly belong together.
                    It doesn't matter anyway, I'm not arguing about their reasons, I'm against their methods.

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                      IronBallsM — 10 years ago(June 02, 2015 08:42 PM)

                      The Internet is meaningless in this case. No one cares what trolls think. Joss has delivered three of the greatest films in genre history (Serenity, Avengers, AoU) and that's all that matters. It's like winning a World Series or Super Bowl and then getting jeered the following season in opposing stadiums. Who really cares? Marvel and Joss are above such things. A large majority love his work.

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                          poem — 10 years ago(June 09, 2015 11:48 PM)

                          I dont get the hate of feminism on the internet. If you hate feminism as an idea, you obviously hate women.
                          And no, just because you know ONE feminist that said something stupid doesnt mean every other feminist has the same opinion.
                          What I really wonder: can any of these "I hate feminism" types even name three important historical feminists ? I doubt they can. Thats how little they actually know about the field.
                          You5b4 shall have no other Kates before Kate Winslet.

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                              preachcaleb — 10 years ago(January 05, 2016 02:57 PM)

                              If you hate feminism as an idea, you obviously hate women.
                              Agreed. People who hate feminism are the very reason we need feminism in the first place.
                              Can't stop the signal.

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                                Hobo_War — 9 years ago(July 28, 2016 01:05 PM)

                                If you hate feminism as an idea, you obviously hate women.
                                Feminists hate men and women.
                                Uh oh spaghettios - Zack Snyder, David Goyer, Chris Terrio, Bryan Singer (2016)

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                                  Moulin_Rouge_Fan — 10 years ago(June 10, 2015 05:28 AM)

                                  "evil feminists"
                                  "Feminists are hateful"
                                  LoL

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                                    DrIdaho — 10 years ago(December 27, 2015 04:55 AM)

                                    "evil feminists"
                                    "Feminists are hateful"
                                    LoL
                                    It is not funny. It is sad. Feminists today are hateful. They target anyone with a Y chromosome.

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                                      curlymst3000 — 9 years ago(June 01, 2016 05:43 PM)

                                      I respect feminism in its traditional meaning: equality, opportunity, and fairness. It was and remains necessary in culture. However, this postmodern feminist movement, the one spearheaded by social justice warriors eager to write a poorly-argued puff piece for attention, that crucified Joss Whedon among others, someone whom everyone knows to be a feminist champion, is hardly about that at all. It's about sewing division and mistrust and absolutely working to poison gender relations. It's nauseating, abhorrent and completely perverting what feminism is supposed to be.

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                                        poem — 9 years ago(June 06, 2016 06:54 AM)

                                        You have a lot of hate in you, young Padawan.
                                        FYI, Joss Whedon identifies as a feminist himself.
                                        A gentleman will not insult me, and no man not a gentleman can insult me.

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                                          OhNooos — 9 years ago(February 06, 2017 10:09 PM)

                                          FYI, Joss Whedon identifies as a feminist himself.
                                          I always thought of Joss that way and as a humanist. I'm unaware of the kerfuffle around any issue with feminists targeting Joss.

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