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    Figaro — 3 years ago(February 24, 2023 12:08 AM)

    Yeah. He's definitely the wrong Hill to die on.

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      Lilith — 3 years ago(February 24, 2023 01:45 AM)

      I absolutely believe he is innocent. He's no saint, and never claimed to be. However, what you see as the character of Marilyn Manson is not the person Brian Warner. That would be like thinking Johnny Depp is really a pirate.
      Damn straight. He's innocent
      OF THESE CHARGES
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        /.​ — 3 years ago(February 24, 2023 01:53 AM)

        I don't know if he's guilty of what she accuses, but it would be foolish to just take the accusations as fact. People can lie and often do. Look at Amber Heard.
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          EURAZN — 3 years ago(February 24, 2023 04:15 PM)

          Nic Cage starring in a BioPic of this guy?

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            𝕤 𝕚 𝕩𝕩𝕩 𝕤 𝕜 𝕚 𝕟 𝕤 — 3 years ago(February 24, 2023 04:16 PM)

            wait hollllup hollup
            u mean to tell me he aint actually jack sparrow

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              Lilith — 3 years ago(February 24, 2023 04:28 PM)

              You're onto something. Hey, maybe he
              IS
              Jack Sparrow! I knew there was something fishy about his Johnny Depp impersonation!
              "Your emotional state is not my responsibility." – Warren Smith

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                  𝕤 𝕚 𝕩𝕩𝕩 𝕤 𝕜 𝕚 𝕟 𝕤 — 3 years ago(February 24, 2023 12:33 AM)

                  she might be encouraging other women to speak up against him with possibly some embellishment (which is wrong yes) but that guy is a sick motherfucker who has most likely raped and/or killed many women lol just ask his best friend johnny depp

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                    Lilith — 3 years ago(February 24, 2023 01:41 AM)

                    I've read the court documents Smithline filed admitting that ERW and Gore had gathered and coerced women to make false claims against Manson. Are you aware that they fabricated an FBI letter using the name of a real FBI agent, impersonating a federal office and officer, to coerce or convince other women that he was being investigated. You seriously have no problem with this?
                    Forging a federal document to coerce women to make false allegations is only one of their criminal acts. They hacked into his computer. His ex-personal assistant provided passwords (which obviously should have been changed, but we usually expect people we hire to be trustworthy) and sent false emails.
                    He's already had three cases dismissed, one case settled. He's not mainstream and he's a shock rocker, and people are not separating the art from the artist.
                    ERW and Gore tried to use the making of the film Groupie to "prove" that Manson filmed and tortured women. The woman in the video, Pola, has been interviewed and stated she was not underage, there was no abuse, and contrary to what the narrative is, there was no SA or any such behaviour. Pola was also on set when the Heart Shaped Glasses video was filmed and even was friendly with ERW at the time. ERW was not r*ped on set, the sex was simulated, and ERW was the one who came up with many of the creative ideas for that video.
                    I am not dying on the hill of Manson, but I, as someone who has been through SA and DV, know that what these women are doing by weaponizing the #MeToo movement is harming real victims.
                    As more and more of these women fall off the bandwagon and recant their accusations, the more and more fake accusations will be stopped and hopefully prosecuted. To crucify a man to where he loses his career and livelihood because he's not family-friendly based only on social media and accusations, is immoral and should be illegal.
                    I fully support Depp as well. If you watched the trial, you'd have heard and seen how Heard was the abuser.
                    "Your emotional state is not my responsibility." – Warren Smith

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                      Sophienoire — 3 years ago(February 24, 2023 02:09 AM)

                      troll.
                      the sound of your racing heart

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                        Lilith — 3 years ago(February 24, 2023 02:11 AM)

                        I'm posting facts from legal court documents. How does that make me a troll?
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                          Sophienoire — 3 years ago(February 24, 2023 02:07 AM)

                          Soph don't reply to this. don't engage in Lilith's trolling. avoid avoid avoid!!! don't do it!!! don't ruin your night!!! leave thread immediately!!!
                          phew. i made it.
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                            Lilith — 3 years ago(February 24, 2023 02:11 AM)

                            Thing is, I'm not trolling. I'm not that kind of poster.
                            Fly away, little bird. Fly away!
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                              /.​ — 3 years ago(February 24, 2023 02:12 AM)

                              Why would you think she is trolling?
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                                /.​ — 3 years ago(February 24, 2023 02:21 AM)

                                bc all men r trash and Lilith is v v smol troll 🤏
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                                  /.​ — 3 years ago(February 24, 2023 02:25 AM)

                                  I think it's true that no one was raped and they were just in consensually weird, ****ty, toxic relationships but I also think it's true you hate women.
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                                    Sophienoire — 3 years ago(February 24, 2023 02:01 PM)

                                    I also think it's true you hate women.
                                    yep. i think so, too.
                                    it starts already with the thread title: "
                                    LIAR!!!!!
                                    " "
                                    She
                                    maNiPULaTed wOiMminzzz into
                                    LYING
                                    about a SEXUAL ABUSE CASE AGAINST A POWERFUL MAAAAN WHO REMINDS ME OF JOHNNY "THE DREAM" DEPP!!!!!" gasp gasp gasp
                                    i didnt read much further than that.
                                    in her world are
                                    Amber Heard: manipulator, liar and abuser … junkie Johnny: THE VICTIM
                                    Meghan Markle: manipulator and nuts … Harry: her cute, but gullible puppet
                                    now Evan Rachel Wood: manipulator and liar … creepy rapey Manson: INNOCENT!!!!
                                    the sound of your racing heart

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                                      138 — 3 years ago(February 24, 2023 02:29 PM)

                                      She does seem to be on the wrong side of all these things lol. I definitely see a bias in favor of men. I don't think she's trolling or crazy, but there seems to be a blindspot. A charitable way to look at it is maybe she's familiar with a case of wrongful accusations. These things can shape your prejudices, much like you and arab men.
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                                        /.​ — 3 years ago(February 24, 2023 02:31 PM)

                                        Well said! 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏
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                                          /.​ — 3 years ago(February 24, 2023 05:42 PM)

                                          clever girl
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