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    Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Frank Zappa


    Henrisalmela — 19 years ago(July 26, 2006 02:29 PM)

    Did he hate the beatles or was it just a joke to parody the sgt pepper cover?

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        gshanger — 19 years ago(August 02, 2006 05:20 AM)

        I'm quite sure he detested them with an intense passion!!!!! The root of dee matter. Well, if you ask most folks today, "Which is the first concept album ever?" Well, most would say dee Beatles
        Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
        (Capital, June 1, 1967)
        . Wrong!!!! It was FZ & MOI's
        Freak Out!
        (2LP, Verve/MGM V/V6-5005-2, June 27, 1966)
        . And that was Zappa's first-ever released album.
        Now this detestation goes even deeper.
        Freak Out!
        should of come out at least five to six months earlier. See folks, dee Beatles got wind of Zappa's album and tried to stall it's release so that they would be dee first. Plus, they thought that since he was a
        noivice
        , they could probably just push him around, and actually get away with this tactic - hey, they were dee biggest thing since sliced bread at that time. For shame folks, because when FZ got wind of this he went balistic, and he then forced MGM records to release it when they did. Still that was a good year before
        Sgt Pepper
        , and it was a double album!!!! But still dee Beatles PR machine tried to sell everyone on dee idea that
        they
        were first. Hey, I would surmise that they even got dee
        concept album
        idea from Zappa and did what they did, and when they did it, because
        Sgt Pepper
        was there what 7th or 9th album (not sure exactly which, but you get dee idea here). So now you b68know dee rest of dee story
        Did he hate the beatles or was it just a joke to parody the sgt pepper cover?
        So,
        Henri Salmel
        you are talking about dee
        Tinsel Town Rebellion
        1981 album cover, eh? Or dee
        Rolling Stone
        magazines'
        Sgt Pepper cover parody
        photo, where Zappa dressed-up in a dress (and stole dee show)? Let me know
        Henri Salmel
        , and viddy dee well until then.
        http://www.united-mutations.com/z/frank_zappa/zappa030.htm
        Tinsel Town Rebellion
        LP cover
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          borgono — 19 years ago(August 03, 2006 11:37 PM)

          what about the lyrics of "Oh, no" from weasels ripped my flesh? they are a parody of "all you need is love"
          but i think that zappa doesn't hate the beatles, he was friend of ringo starr and john lennon; he always hate the hippie movement more than nothing, and probably he feel dissapointed when the beatles take that influence, but they quickly dropped

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            Henrisalmela — 19 years ago(August 04, 2006 08:41 AM)

            WEll i know that Freak out! was a concept album that was released before sgt pepper so i understand if Zappa was bit angry when sgt pepper was praised by critics as first concept album.

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              gshanger — 19 years ago(August 07, 2006 02:13 AM)

              Oh no
              (1:45)
              Oh no
              I don't believe it
              You say that you think you know
              The meaning of love
              You say love is all we need
              You say
              With your love you can change
              All of the fools
              All of the hate
              I think you're probably
              Out to lunch
              Oh no
              I don't believe it
              You say that you think you know
              The meaning of love
              Do you really think it can be told?
              You say that you really know
              I think
              You should check it again
              How can you say
              What you believe
              Will be the key to a
              World of love?
              All your love
              Will it save me?
              All your love
              Will it save the world
              From what we can't understand?
              Oh no
              I don't believe it
              And in your dreams
              You can see yourself
              As a prophet
              Saving the world
              The
              Words from your lips
              I just can't believe
              You are such
              A fool

              • from:
                http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Weasels_Ripped_My_Flesh.html#No
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                gshanger — 19 years ago(August 07, 2006 02:00 AM)

                zappa doesn't hate the beatles, he was friend of ringo starr and john lennon
                Yes, Ringo, did
                play
                Zappa in
                200 Motels
                , and FZ did do some
                colloboration
                with Lennon - although it was unofficially released!!!! But still dee hurt from trying to steal his thunder, and stall dee release of
                Freak Out!
                , and then re-write history!!! But still
                borgono
                , you
                do
                have a point well taken!!!
                Viddy well then
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                  tangerine123 — 19 years ago(January 11, 2007 09:31 PM)

                  I doubt it was The (or 'dee') Beatles trying to steal his thunder and more like the execs and other assorted AH's. Or maybe Paul McCartney since Macca's pretty controlling. Maybe it's a sign that FZ never collaborated with him. I'd say he's taking the mickey out of critics the media with the SP cover.

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                    Blues_Rock_Guitarist — 19 years ago(January 31, 2007 11:24 PM)

                    Zappa never really had a beef with the Beatles as far as I know. But he was a huge fan of them, however.
                    "And number one ain't you. You ain't even number two!"

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                      tangerine123 — 19 years ago(February 05, 2007 01:46 PM)

                      You mean he 'wasn't a huge f111can of them'?
                      I think FZ is someone who can look past the hype and the promoters and the PR people and recognise talent or potential. Maybe we'll never really know what he thought. I wonder if Gail does.

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                        Blues_Rock_Guitarist — 19 years ago(February 06, 2007 10:56 PM)

                        Whoops, you're right, I meant "wasn't". That's what happens if you don't check your spelling.
                        Anyway, if you want to actually hear Frank speak for himself concerning the Beatles, he mentions them on a Larry King interview. Check for it on Youtube. He said he liked a few songs, but overall, he didn't like the group.
                        "And number one ain't you. You ain't even number two!"

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                          slkostis-2 — 9 years ago(June 30, 2016 07:38 PM)

                          You're wrong there too. The first concept album was the Chipmunks' debut album, Let's All Sing With (LIberty Records, 1959). It detailed a fictionalization of an argument between its composer?Chipmunks creator Ross Bagdasarian Jr. a/k/a David Seville?and his son Adam, the latter of which was fictionalized as his namesake son's default public pseudonym Alvin Chipmunk. Bagdasarian Sr. did all the voices, and the music was performed by an early lineup of Zappa's orchestra Abnuceals Emuukha.

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                            jefgg — 10 years ago(October 08, 2015 05:12 AM)

                            Frank liked The Beatles, but liked The Rolling Stones more. Please click on

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