Twelve O'Clock High
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MortSahlFan — 5 years ago(November 21, 2020 06:53 PM)
I don't remember rape… but it seems like EVERYTHING is offensive.
People will do ANYTHING to get some attention.
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(November 21, 2020 09:10 PM)
I'm imagining it was just a scene where the man forcefully takes the woman without her consent but afterwards he has won her over and she loves him and wants him. But technically feminists would call that rape. It's all very doctrinaire.
But I suspect in 1949 they left the "rape" out of the movie.
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MortSahlFan — 5 years ago(November 21, 2020 10:32 PM)
Exactly. I'm sure it had a dissolve. I never read the book, but did see the movie about 15 years ago. It seemed to have mixed up non-conformity with libertarian principles.
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(November 22, 2020 03:03 AM)
I would suspect that Hollywood got it wrong. Ayn Rand is hardcore right wing. I don't think in 1949 they knew who they were dealing with. They may have thought it was about nonconformity and not vigilantism. Rand basically supports vigilante action against the state.
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MortSahlFan — 5 years ago(November 22, 2020 11:31 AM)
I think they got it wrong on purpose. Maybe it was done that way to make it palatable to the average viewer?
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ZolotoyRetriever — 5 years ago(November 21, 2020 07:32 PM)
The Fountainhead
https://www.filmboards.com/board/10041386/
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(November 21, 2020 09:07 PM)
Here's the problem with his and Rand's philosophy though. Sure, the individual must battle the forces of conformity and the herd mentality to create something new and superior. But he also benefits from living in that society as well. If not, why does he not become a hermit and live on a mountain top? Oh but no, he doesn't want to do that.
The creative individual needs society to return the proceeds from his invention to him. He doesn't just create and disappear. He wants to reap the rewards. And he can only do that in an orderly society.
Ayn Rand saw the world as black and white. It's not. There is the right and the will of the individual. But there is also the collective society from which that individual benefits.
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MortSahlFan — 5 years ago(December 03, 2020 11:21 PM)
"Home of the Brave" is probably the best movie I've seen that deals with race.
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