cryptoflovecraft said...
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cryptoflovecraft — 4 years ago(August 03, 2021 02:44 PM)
lukejbarnett said...
torture porn is not inherently bad. hostel is a good movie and it's torture porn. hostel was supposed to be like the texas chainsaw massacre 1974 and so that means that tcm is maybe torture porn? also wolf creek is torture porn and it's a clear tcm 1974 influenced film. it's maybe the most similar film to tcm that has ever been made. so that means that tcm could be torture porn.
also exploitation is not bad or good. it's a film classification first for movies made in the 1970s often shown at drive-ins. it's just movies that are independent in spirit maybe are all independent movies and movies that are very violent.
and are the same as mainstream action drama sci fi and horror movies except with extreme violence more explicit than in mainstream action sci fi and horror movies and often have more nudity than in mainstream action horror and sci fi movies.
but what about martyrs, have you ever watched it? now that is the most disturbing film ever made. if you have courage and can watch any movie no matter how disturbing it is then you have to have watched it. it's as also a very well made film, it's a work of art. i believe the same thing about audition.
now that is an unnerving hard to watch film. have you ever watched audition? it lures you into thinking it's going to be a certain kind of film in the first half, then you are blindsided by the extremely macabre and visceral second half.
he was punished, he spent time in prison, like a year and a half. everyone should forgive everyone, no one is without merit to be forgiven. forgiving everyone is the way of a good, altruistic and moral person. we all have the capacity to forgive and we all should. it's not right to hold a grudge against someone and it's not right to hate someone bc of what they did.
people are dumb for not forgiving vick bc they put dogs above humans in regards to them being killed in a bad inhumane way and then they think of this as being worse than the people who get killed from genocide or from a cult or a race hating group.
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torture porn is not inherently bad. hostel is a good movie and it's torture porn. hostel was supposed to be like the texas chainsaw massacre 1974 and so that means that tcm is maybe torture porn? also wolf creek is torture porn and it's a clear tcm 1974 influenced film. it's maybe the most similar film to tcm that has ever been made. so that means that tcm could be torture porn.
I've seen both Wolf Creek and Hostel. I liked WC but I didn't care much for Hostel. Eli Roth has never made a film that I liked (aside from the mildly entertaining and completely unnecessary remake of Death Wish, that is). Torture porn is either the last resort of an unimaginative filmmaker or the forte of a just plain bad one - take yer pick.
TCM isn't torture porn and it's not even close to being TP. The remake has a bit of a torture porn feel to it though.
I've never seen Martyrs or Audition.
people are dumb for not forgiving vick bc they put dogs above humans in regards to them being killed in a bad inhumane way and then they think of this as being worse than the people who get killed from genocide or from a cult or a race hating group.
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lukejbarnett — 4 years ago(August 03, 2021 08:16 PM)
cryptoflovecraft said...
torture porn is not inherently bad. hostel is a good movie and it's torture porn. hostel was supposed to be like the texas chainsaw massacre 1974 and so that means that tcm is maybe torture porn? also wolf creek is torture porn and it's a clear tcm 1974 influenced film. it's maybe the most similar film to tcm that has ever been made. so that means that tcm could be torture porn.
I've seen both Wolf Creek and Hostel. I liked WC but I didn't care much for Hostel. Eli Roth has never made a film that I liked (aside from the mildly entertaining and completely unnecessary remake of Death Wish, that is). Torture porn is either the last resort of an unimaginative filmmaker or the forte of a just plain bad one - take yer pick.
TCM isn't torture porn and it's not even close to being TP. The remake has a bit of a torture porn feel to it though.
I've never seen Martyrs or Audition.
people are dumb for not forgiving vick bc they put dogs above humans in regards to them being killed in a bad inhumane way and then they think of this as being worse than the people who get killed from genocide or from a cult or a race hating group.
No, it's not worse than genocide but it's despicable all the same.
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ok now i'm happy and pleased with you bc i have the same belief as you, about remakes. if it's not necessary then they shouldn't make it. i just told someone tis last week. i told them if a film cannot be improved upon with a remake then the remake shouldn't be made and it's deemed and defined as unnecessary.
robocop remake unnecessary, psycho remake for sure unnecessary, also valley girl, adventures in babysitting, footloose, friday the 13th, a nightmare on elm street, hellraiser, the evil dead, though it was remade and remade very well,
i still think the remake is unnecessary but maybe that's the only exception to this rule bc the sequel which actually is a remake is so epically great. also mother's day remake, not necessary, and ghostbusters remake of course not necessary.
by the way have you ever watched father's day from about 2013? the guy i told you about who has watched like every movie ever made said it was so disturbing that he was amazed and he's watched so many horror movies that are disturbing that for him to be shocked and impressed with a film being disturbing it must be one ****ed up disturbing horror film.
from the things i've read about it it sounds like a very grueling, nasty violent, old school '70s, raw horror film. one of the characters has the name the fuchman, lol, so it has humor also. it's about a killer who rapes and kills dads. so weird of an idea.
last resort meaning just 1, their first movie? and forte meaning they make these movies all the time?
now wolf creek is amazing right? weren't you blown away by how original, eerie, haunting, disturbing and creepy it is? wasn't it a hard film to keep watching bc of it's ruthless and heartless main villain and bc of the torture the kids went through?
which is why you probably didn't like the remake of tcm right, bc it's kind of torture porn? did you like the remake?
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geewizzz — 4 years ago(June 21, 2021 01:48 PM)
it's impossible to make a remake as great as the original film
What did you think of Carpenter's
The Thing
, the 1978 version of
Invasion of The Body Snatchers
,
Scarface
(1983),
The Fly
(1986),
Cat People
(1982),
The Wizard of Oz
(1939),
The Maltese Falcon
(1941),
Eyes Wide Shut
(1999),
A Clockwork Orange
(1971) ?
they also remade robocop, ghostbusters, footloose, and a nightmare on elm street.
I saw the remake of
Footloose
but haven't seen the original…though I admit the only reason I watched it was because of a certain actor that was in it.
I wouldn't say it was that good but maybe not as bad as it is made out to be…but I can't compare the original, since I haven't seen it…I've only seen the music vid for the title song.
I saw both versions of
Robocop
…I much prefer the original. I don't like the sequels at all.
It's just easy to market stuff people are already familiar with.
But some directors can put an interesting spin on old concepts.
I agree that most of them aren't good though.
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lukejbarnett — 4 years ago(June 22, 2021 04:02 PM)
when i said this i meant classic films from the '80s that have been remade since the '00s decade. for some weird reason it's bc all the creativity ran out, dried up starting in the '00s decade, so many classic films started being remade in the '00s decade.
so, sorry to say this horror film fans, scream and films made around the time of scream(1996-1999) were the last original horror films that we are ever going to see mostly, with a very few exceptions that break new ground.
carpenter's the thing is a masterpiece. i just found out from watching the great documentary in search of darkness that carpenter didn't want to make it bc he loved the original so much, the thing from another world.
just think of a world without the thing remake from carpenter. that would be a horrible world.
wait, the wizard of oz(1939) is a remake? i didn't know there is a movie called the wizard of oz made before this movie.
same thing about the maltese falcon and eyes wide shut. never heard of movies with these titles other than the movie with humphrey bogart and the movie with tom cruise
i heard one person say scarface(1983) is a bad movie.
cat people(1982) is a great film. i hared it's completely different than the original cat people 1942). and this is the way to make a remake, if you're going to remake a film you better make it completely different than the original if the original is a classic film.
about footloose remake: did you watch it only bc of the hot girl lead?
and then they actually went and made a spinoff movie of alien and predator that was horrible called alien vs. predator and then they actually made another alien vs. predator movie that was bad also.
though predators is a good movie but it's not an alien vs. predator movie so i'm glad they didn't do another one of these bound to fail gimmick movies.
just bc its an easy way to make money doesn't mean it's a good idea for a movie this is lazy filmmaking, it's making a movie that is known to make money based on a previous movie formula.
it doesn't require much originality just copying another movie. it's cheap and i usually refuse to watch remakes of classic films. and the thing is i'll watch a film that is a ripoff of another film as long as it's not called the same name of the movie it's ripping off. it feels wrong to rip off another movie by calling it a remake knowing it's going to make a lot of money just bc the original film did.
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geewizzz — 4 years ago(June 24, 2021 07:24 PM)
wait, the wizard of oz(1939) is a remake? i didn't know there is a movie called the wizard of oz made before this movie.
The earliest surviving film version
The Wonderful Wizard of Oz
is from 1910.
But there were a few adaptations of L. Frank Baum's book.
The 1925 film version was based on the stage play.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptations_of_The_Wizard_of_Oz
i heard one person say scarface(1983) is a bad movie.
Some like it…others don't.
It's over the top, but it's become a cult classic.
Eyes Wide Shut
is adapted from the 1926 novel,
Traumnovelle
(Dream Story) by Arthur Schnitzler.
There's a film version of it from 1969.
The first film version of
The Maltese Falcon
is from 1931
about footloose remake: did you watch it only bc of the hot girl lead?
No…one of the actors in a supporting role.
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lukejbarnett — 4 years ago(June 25, 2021 05:22 AM)
i didn't know that. interesting. if you asked 100 people on the street, random people is there a movie the wizard of oz before the version from 1939, 99 people wouldn't know that there is a version before the 1939 version.
did you know there is a movie called i married a witch from 1942? amazing. i just watched it it stars veronica lake and it's what obviously inspired bewitched the tv show bc the main girl acts just like samantha and she has the same relationship with her dad that samantha has with her witch mom and it has the same light humor that bewitched has too, the same tone.
it's a amazing to me that a big hollywood movie with a big hollywood actress veronica lake actually made a movie about witches in 1942!!!
how do you know about all these obscure movie facts? are you on wikipedia every day or something?
i love obscure and unique movies. i love parts of the movie the crimson cult.
what is the name of the movie in which there is a moon with a face on it and it has a monocle over one of it's eyes? it's a movie from like the 1920s.
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geewizzz — 4 years ago(June 25, 2021 06:31 AM)
The Anniversary Editions of
The Wizard of Oz
DVDs include the older silent films on the bonus discs as well as documentaries about the history of the film.
I've just been into a lot of movies since I was very young…even before I was using the Internet.
I started with old video catalogs from warehouses and had a video store near me as a kid with a lot of rare stuff.
And it helped that I knew some people that knew a lot about the subject to help guide me.
But yea, I do research on things and check Wikipedia now and then.
And yea,
I Married A Witch
is what Bewitched was based on…with some inspiration from
Bell, Book & Candle
as well -
I assume you mean
A Trip To The Moon
from 1902, which had hand printed color on some early prints
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lukejbarnett — 4 years ago(June 25, 2021 06:56 AM)
i love that you talked about bell, book, and candle bc i just thought about this movie after thinking about i married a witch when writing the last message that i sent to you about this movie.
a trip to the moon might be this movie not sure though, its interesting bc in the smashing pumpkins video for tonight, tonight it has that moon image and guys dressed like the guys are dressed in that picture you just sent me. so this might be that movie. my friend said its a about 2 sets of people, one living under ground. is this in this movie?
what are old video catalogues from warehouses?
lukejbarnett