Punk thread
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cryptoflovecraft — 8 years ago(February 06, 2018 04:39 AM)
Minutemen were great. Nice mix of punk, post-punk and funk. Waaay better than **** like Red Hot Chili Peppers who they obviously influenced.
I like bands that pushed the boundaries of the genre. Black Flag are a perfect example. Some of their post-
Damaged
material went in an experimental (metal/jazz/progressive) direction esp. the instrumental records
Family Man
and
The Process of Weeding Out
EP.
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Fugazi — 8 years ago(February 06, 2018 05:00 AM)
I like RHCP. Some would say they're overrated but almost everyone I know hates them lol.
They're a fun band. Not like one of my top 10, but I like em.
Speaking of post-punk, Sex Pistols were always kind of a guilty pleasure. They were kind of the boy band of early punk. I like them, but on an analytic level, I don't think there's much to them… but I really love PiL. So underrated, but much better Rotten fronted band. -
cryptoflovecraft — 8 years ago(February 06, 2018 08:44 PM)
Sex Pistols were always kind of a guilty pleasure. They were kind of the boy band of early punk.
They were a joke of sorts but a fun joke. Musically, they sounded a lot like the New York Dolls. The only thing that made them "original", I suppose, were their lyrics (who else was singing about anarchy in 1977?) and the safety pins and spiked hair (though Richard Hell was dressing like that years earlier)…For better or for worse, the Pistols were the band that brought punk into the mainstream (for a short while) and made it a household word. I like
Never Mind the Bollocks
, it's a solid album, but I'm glad they were a short-lived band.
I agree that PiL were the better band though they never really found much commercial success. Rotten will always be remembered first and foremost for the Sex Pistols. -
Fugazi — 8 years ago(February 06, 2018 10:13 PM)
Yeah, they did kind of… what's the word? Codify?… a lot of the punk tropes. Not sure if it's a good or bad thing.
I have mixed feelings about anything mainstream connected to punk. In a way, it sucks because you get bastardizations… though punk was never something too clearly defined anyway, so is that even a fair criticism? Either way, it mixes things I hate about the mainstream with it.
On the other hand, mainstream punk was my introduction to punk. I listened to grunge and "alternative" as young as 4 or 5 because I was the second youngest with a lot of teenage and 20 something siblings and cousins. Then as a preteen a friend got me into Green Day, and I played that Tony Hawk's Pro Skater game. Both really got me going down the rabbit hole. Punk is what ultimately made me more confident, and that wouldn't have happened if it was strictly underground. -
Platonic_Caveman — 8 years ago(February 10, 2018 06:23 AM)
I disagree with you. PiL is great. But Sex Pistols were seminal. The New York Dolls could be called proto-punk, but the Sex Pistols pushed it over and made punk a whole new category of rock. PiL is the culmination and progression of Sex Pistols. But "Never Mind the Bullocks" is one of the few dozen or so crucial and important works of rock. It restored real vibrant rock after bands like Pink Floyd and Jethro Tull had almost destroyed it with 'art rock'.
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cryptoflovecraft — 8 years ago(February 10, 2018 02:27 PM)
PiL is great. But Sex Pistols were seminal. The New York Dolls could be called proto-punk, but the Sex Pistols pushed it over and made punk a whole new category of rock.
I agree with most of that but I would give the other bands in the late 70s punk scene credit too for making punk a whole new category of rock. It was a movement. The Ramones' debut album predated Never Mind the Bollocks by a year and The Damned put out the first British punk single ("New Rose") in 1976. It's just that the Sex Pistols received the most media attention and 'were in the right place at the right time', as the saying goes, much like Nirvana in 1991 being credited with creating "grunge" when in reality there were other bands in the Seattle scene who helped them create that style and sound.
PiL is the culmination and progression of Sex Pistols.
I love Never Mind the Bollocks and it deserves the praise and recognition it gets but I think PiL was the more challenging band and did so much more musically. I could definitely see the Sex Pistols moving in the direction of early PiL…in fact, wasn't "Public Image" originally intended to be a Sex Pistols song? But while Rotten was doing PiL in 1978, the other former Sex Pistols, Steve Jones and Paul Cook, were doing The Professionals, a band with a much more standard punk sound a la The Clash. So it remains to be seen what direction the Pistols would've gone in had they continued. In any case, it would've been interesting. -
Platonic_Caveman — 8 years ago(February 10, 2018 05:06 PM)
Of course the Sex Pistols didn't invent punk. It was a movement fomenting separately in several places by many different bands. I'm just saying you can't say PiL is a more important or better band. It's an evolution of the Sex Pistols.
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Platonic_Caveman — 8 years ago(February 10, 2018 04:57 PM)
I was born and raised in a SoCal beach community. Of course Pink Floyd is de rigueur here. Junior high school kids still listen to it. But it's not kick ass rock. It's "art rock".
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Platonic_Caveman — 8 years ago(February 10, 2018 05:48 PM)
Okay. San Pedro is the Port of LA town. There's a lot of oil refineries and they ship outta the Port of LA. It's actually kewl there. San Pedro is a very offbeat town. I got shot there by gangstas years ago.
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Platonic_Caveman — 8 years ago(February 10, 2018 05:59 PM)
Mod said...
What were you doing there? Playing Fletch?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FaKUGC6fxI
We were drinking beer and smoking weed at 3AM on some isolated cove.
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