Punk thread
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Platonic_Caveman — 8 years ago(February 10, 2018 06:23 AM)
I disagree with you. PiL is great. But Sex Pistols were seminal. The New York Dolls could be called proto-punk, but the Sex Pistols pushed it over and made punk a whole new category of rock. PiL is the culmination and progression of Sex Pistols. But "Never Mind the Bullocks" is one of the few dozen or so crucial and important works of rock. It restored real vibrant rock after bands like Pink Floyd and Jethro Tull had almost destroyed it with 'art rock'.
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cryptoflovecraft — 8 years ago(February 10, 2018 02:27 PM)
PiL is great. But Sex Pistols were seminal. The New York Dolls could be called proto-punk, but the Sex Pistols pushed it over and made punk a whole new category of rock.
I agree with most of that but I would give the other bands in the late 70s punk scene credit too for making punk a whole new category of rock. It was a movement. The Ramones' debut album predated Never Mind the Bollocks by a year and The Damned put out the first British punk single ("New Rose") in 1976. It's just that the Sex Pistols received the most media attention and 'were in the right place at the right time', as the saying goes, much like Nirvana in 1991 being credited with creating "grunge" when in reality there were other bands in the Seattle scene who helped them create that style and sound.
PiL is the culmination and progression of Sex Pistols.
I love Never Mind the Bollocks and it deserves the praise and recognition it gets but I think PiL was the more challenging band and did so much more musically. I could definitely see the Sex Pistols moving in the direction of early PiL…in fact, wasn't "Public Image" originally intended to be a Sex Pistols song? But while Rotten was doing PiL in 1978, the other former Sex Pistols, Steve Jones and Paul Cook, were doing The Professionals, a band with a much more standard punk sound a la The Clash. So it remains to be seen what direction the Pistols would've gone in had they continued. In any case, it would've been interesting. -
Platonic_Caveman — 8 years ago(February 10, 2018 05:06 PM)
Of course the Sex Pistols didn't invent punk. It was a movement fomenting separately in several places by many different bands. I'm just saying you can't say PiL is a more important or better band. It's an evolution of the Sex Pistols.
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Platonic_Caveman — 8 years ago(February 10, 2018 04:57 PM)
I was born and raised in a SoCal beach community. Of course Pink Floyd is de rigueur here. Junior high school kids still listen to it. But it's not kick ass rock. It's "art rock".
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Platonic_Caveman — 8 years ago(February 10, 2018 05:48 PM)
Okay. San Pedro is the Port of LA town. There's a lot of oil refineries and they ship outta the Port of LA. It's actually kewl there. San Pedro is a very offbeat town. I got shot there by gangstas years ago.
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Platonic_Caveman — 8 years ago(February 10, 2018 05:59 PM)
Mod said...
What were you doing there? Playing Fletch?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FaKUGC6fxI
We were drinking beer and smoking weed at 3AM on some isolated cove.
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