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Is Taylor Swift the lamest popstar to make it as big as she has?

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    disturbedtool68 — 9 years ago(July 05, 2016 06:56 AM)

    What other females made it as big as she has? Brittney? Taylor has more musical talent than Brittney.
    Not sure what 'obvious melodies' are. It's pop. Most of the melodies are predictable, if that's what you mean.
    A lot of times a 'signature song' is a stand out song because the rest of their material is weak or at least inconsistent and their stand out song is the one song that resonated with the public over all of their other songs. Maybe she is just a little more consistent than a stand out song.
    As for dating and celeb dating lives, when was that NOT covered? Mick's love life has been in the news for 50 years.
    I;m not a fan of Taylor, I think I know 2 of her songs and I havent heard either one all the way through, but I never understand people who complain about the popularity of pop stars.
    At least you didnt go the more dramatic "I mourn for a nation where Taylor Swift is popular"

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      !!!deleted!!! (63548317) — 9 years ago(July 05, 2016 08:38 AM)

      I don't really listen to her music but I am impressed that she knows how to comport herself and take care of her business, brand, and finances. The girl seems to have her head screwed on straight and appears to be loyal to her large group of friends rather than having a posse for appearances.
      That's rare in itself.
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        KingTrump — 9 years ago(July 05, 2016 10:09 AM)

        Yeah, having her head on straight makes her music sound better.

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          PKLarkins — 9 years ago(July 05, 2016 10:16 AM)

          I don't care for her music, but I don't mind if others listen to it. I'm not impressed by most experimentation, which tends to come off as quite lame, and I don't see any point in having a signature song.
          As to gossip about her personal life, haven't they also said plenty about Cher, Madonna, and pretty much every other singer who's come down the pike?
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            Henry_Framus_Valentine — 9 years ago(July 05, 2016 10:25 AM)

            If I dont have to listen to her, I dont care how popular or lame she is. I should deny her fans the pleasure? I hate her music but I can`t deny she has talent. She certainly has a talent for annoying me, but so do Madonna and Stevie Nicks and Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey and dozens of other pop songstresses.
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              NikolajCostas1005 — 9 years ago(July 05, 2016 10:40 AM)

              She clearly puts a lot more focus on marketing her career as a celebrity than her music itself. I don't blame her either, that's the only way to sustain a career that big in today's industry. But while she's known as this singular talent who wrote every song on Speak Now and somehow is responsible for most of what you hear from her, I personally have a lot of doubt about her contributions to her own music. I haven't seen a single shred of exposition into her process that reveals she knows what she's doing, yet I have seen several calculated interviews where she tells a personal fairy tale anecdote that led to the cute title or lyrical concept of the song. I see a lot more work that went into her trying to innovate the "girl squad" social media marketing.
              The music that comes from her camp isn't horribly bad in itself, it's pretty much just your average cookie cutter pop that obviously adapts to quickly changing trends. We Are Never Getting Back Together and Shake it Off however are just awful, contrived and such forced melodies that sound like someone found a catchy beat and desperately tried to force a bad one-finger keyboard melody on top. Those are instances where the formulaic part of the process really shows to me.
              And yes, I've paid attention to her otherwise I wouldn't feel the right to resent her. As you mentioned, it's kinda hard to avoid her music anywhere public and her private life is just as prevalent if you read the news. Just this past week, there was a picture of her kissing Loki on the beach right above the story of the Turkey bombings.
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                Dark_Firework — 9 years ago(July 05, 2016 10:45 AM)

                Okay, I went from a huge fan to hater to a stan with her career, so I'm biased. I'll try to explain why I became a fan again as best as I can.
                Taylor has way more control over her music than many pop stars before her. With her country albums, she wrote, sang, and produced the albums basically by herself and one other person (if I remember correctly). With
                1989
                , she collabed with more people, but if you look into it, she was incredibly involved with its production, much more than the average pop star. Pop stars like Britney or Madonna sometimes wrote their songs, but Taylor has written or co-written every single one, and she has always produced her songs. To me, it made her pop music seem more personal, which I appreciated. I moved on from pop in 2011 or so, but Taylor brought me back into it.
                Her music style is certainly unique with its songwriting. Why do you think people slut shame her so much? She is very open about the pros and the cons of her love life, which she parodied in "Blank Space," which to me, is her signature song (so I disagree with you there). I feel like 1.6 or 1.7 billion views on YouTube cements that. I guess Bad Blood is another key song due to all of the marketing it received, but I hate that song so I skip over even thinking about it.
                Also, she often tells a story in many of her songs, and she has sometimes has foreshadowed her later career in her earlier songs. You don't generally hear the stories in her later singles, but if you listen to her albums completely, the stories are still there. I also think it was cool how "Mean" (2010) completely foreshadowed her entire
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                era. Her transition into pop also felt very authentic due to this reason compared to other pop stars' experimenting with whatever the latest fad is. I'm not sure if she can do it again, however.
                I'm probably just looking too much into her music because I've grown up with it since I've been 15 or 16, and at 24, I feel like her music has represented my personal growth. I'll likely get over her future career if she doesn't authentically change her style, but she definitely has huge charisma, the songwriting and instrumental chops, production savvy, etc. to differentiate her from previous pop stars. Her vocals are a bit average, however, so I agree with you there.
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                  littlemermaid22 — 9 years ago(July 06, 2016 02:55 PM)

                  I agree 100%!

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                    pop-actor — 9 years ago(July 06, 2016 03:03 PM)

                    I just hate the fact she is associated with country music - In Pop music, I have seen her kind before, the 80's was Debbie Gibson & in the 90's was Britney Spears.
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                      littlemermaid22 — 9 years ago(July 06, 2016 03:10 PM)

                      I confess I do like Britney's old songs but she's not a great artist.

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                        jefgg — 9 years ago(November 19, 2016 03:24 PM)

                        I never understood the popularity of Madonna. She isn't a singer. She is singer/dancer/actress. Or maybe she is just a celebrity. She was absolutely huge for a few years in the '80s. Then her sales slowed down. But the media stayed obsessed with her even after most of the public stopped caring. Early in their careers Madonna was compared to Cyndi Lauper. I thought Lauper was much more talented.

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                          SSchroeder1984 — 9 years ago(November 20, 2016 01:53 AM)

                          Vocally? Yes, Lauper was more talented, but Madonna still had many great pop songs in the 80s.

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                            NoseofNicko — 9 years ago(November 19, 2016 03:26 PM)

                            Britney Spears.
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                              britneyfoxx — 9 years ago(November 19, 2016 08:53 PM)

                              Miley is the lamest

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                                GarrettWNNZ — 9 years ago(November 23, 2016 02:16 PM)

                                How so? she's annoying but that doesn't affect the fact that she has great vocals and musical talent.

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                                  britneyfoxx — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 10:07 PM)

                                  Miley has great vocals and talent? Hahaha ur an idiot

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                                    GarrettWNNZ — 9 years ago(November 30, 2016 05:22 AM)

                                    Calling me an idiot doesn't support your argument
                                    I will instead provide proof for her abilities:
                                    That is only her middle register, no highest nor low notes in this.. breath support is good, decent enunciation and resonance in her vocals.. sings on pitch, has nasality but that is part of her style which is acceptable.. overall that's a good voice that becomes great once you factor in the extreme parts of her voice like her low register.
                                    Regarding her talent, she plays piano and guitar at least in a basic but decent level and composes and writes most of her songs.. she never lip-syncs nor hides behind backing vocals.. I don't see how that's being untalented.

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                                      SSchroeder1984 — 9 years ago(November 20, 2016 02:05 AM)

                                      I give Taylor Swift quite a bit of credit. Her vocal range may not be the greatest, but her songwriting is respectable, especially considering she first got famous in her teens, whereas many pop singers getting famous at that age don't write their own songs at all, let alone write anything as memorable as "Teardrops on My Guitar" or "Love Story".
                                      I think she easily has more overall talent than Britney, although Britney has a few good songs, and even Madonna (who has a good number of good songs, but I'm not sure how much credit
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                                      deserves for them.) I also think she has far more good songs than Miley Cyrus, although Miley has more vocal skill. I'm not sure if Katy Perry has ever been as "big" as Taylor, but Taylor tops her in every way.

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                                        sostie — 9 years ago(November 21, 2016 05:47 AM)

                                        I don't care about the baggage around her, but (like Britney) she has made two or three great pop singles in my opinion and for those I'd rate her higher than the whole career of pop stars like Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Bruno Mars or post Thriller Michael Jackson.

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                                          praisethelove — 9 years ago(November 21, 2016 05:51 AM)

                                          Out of all the stuff in the mainstream music scene right now, Taylor Swift is one of the better ones.

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