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JustinCase — 8 months ago(July 18, 2025 11:42 PM)
I really don't care for Cowboys vs Indians westerns because I know the Indians will always lose and I empathize with their side to being passionate about their mistreatment at the mass murder and relocation genocide us whites did to them where we broke every single treaty and that mistreatment and racism still goes on today.
For a different Indian western perspective I would suggest Little Big Man to add to your list since that also shows the truth of the genocide even though it is kinda tongue in cheek in parts.
For modern takes on American Indians today and their struggles there is:
Smoke Signals
A very moving picture of a young Amer. Indian who has to face realities he is trying to deny.
(I see that you have already reviewed them and gave very cynical remarks.)
To show the realities of problems and poverty on the rez there is Skins.
If you want something even more serious and political there is the documentary Incident at Oglala showing how Leonard Peltier was framed for the defense killing of two FBI agents who trespassed then started firing randomly on a rez.
Produced and narrated by Redford.
BTW: Update; LP was finally freed by Biden.
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JohnnyBoy — 8 months ago(July 18, 2025 11:59 PM)
Very hard to find a good American Indian movie that's normal in terms of how they are treated. As a matter of fact, Smoke Signals is a ripoff of Powwow Highway. Funny and highly recommended. I need to post a review of the latter soon. Just too many similarities. I need to rewatch Little Big Man. My review is just too short currently.
https://thecineviewer.com/BestAmericanIndianIndigenousFilms.html
Okay, I will check out the documentary. Looks like it's similar to Thunderheart.
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JustinCase — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 12:29 AM)
I agree that PowWow does look similar though it seems exaggerated with the bar fights and jail break where I think Smoke looks more realistic.
Smoke was written by Amer. Ind. Sherman Alexie which he based on his own short stories.
Was he influenced by Powwow or is the Indian road trip movie theme a coincidence?
I dunno.
They seem kind of limited in the stories they tell.
Like we don't have Amer. Indian action movies or as superheroes or rom coms etc.
H.Wood might be to blame for that since they seem to depict them as always so serious in real life situations.
Interesting bit of trivia:
The dad in flashback of Smoke Signals is played by Gary Farmer, one of the actors from Powwow Highway.
https://travsd.wordpress.com/2013/11/17/pow-wow-highway-and-smoke-signals/
Think I'll check it out anyway.
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JohnnyBoy — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 02:34 AM)
That guy, Gary Farmer…jeez best performance in Powwow. Very funny.
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LorqVonRay1999 — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 01:45 AM)
Native Americans stole land all the time, murdered, raped, abducted women and forced them to pregnancy, they violated any and all things at any time. And that was long before Europeans showed up.
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JustinCase — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 01:57 AM)
I have seen this bullshit argument before which is a failure to justify the massive murder genocide the whites did to them.
What you are doing with that is just trying to be in denial of the Amer. Indian holocaust the whites did to them.
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LorqVonRay1999 — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 02:03 AM)
Hell, Native Americans died mostly because of disease they had no built-up immunity to. Not any 'genocide'.
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JohnnyBoy — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 02:37 AM)
But that wasn't different from what the Europeans were doing at the time, right?
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JohnnyBoy — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 02:46 AM)
Yeah, the Dark Ages, the witchcraft stuff, the medieval tortures, and the Spanish Iniquisition.
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JustinCase — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 02:52 AM)
I shall try and remember to bring that up next time someone is in denial of the holocaust the Amer. Indians went through because of the illegal European immigrants that came here.
I dunno why there is this denial of the atrocities against non whites by whites.
Slavery is another one where they mention that African tribes enslaved members of enemy tribes and sold them to us.
Their bizzaro logic is their wrongs make our wrongs right.
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JohnnyBoy — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 05:26 AM)
I found A People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn to be a very interesting read, matching exactly what you're saying. There's a lot of hidden history covered. Some movies do a good job of touching these issues but got discarded so quickly that they remain obscure to this day. There are two additional books doing the same: Sundown Towns: A Hidden Dimension of American Racism and Lies My Teacher Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong from James Loewen.
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JustinCase — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 06:53 AM)
You have a good eye since I have read People's History, which gets a shout out in Good Will Hunting by Matt Damon.
It is indeed a real eye opener and has reshaped my opinions and views on what this country was really founded on and the influence behind so many of the wrongs it does by the rich, white powerful men in government and industry and their human oppressing agendas which still go on today.
While it does touch on the genocide of the Amer. Ind., starting with the torture, deaths and other horrors inflicted upon the peaceful Indians that met Columbus, most of what I learned instead comes from a book which is all about it called, Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee.
Both are very informative and disturbing reads on the truth.
Another one is a book that is in a graphic novel style called The Big Book of Conspiracy Theories, which also uncovers some truths behind a lot of CTs besides the JFK one.
Such as how the top spy for Nazi Germany was very influential in the formation of the CIA.
He had all these Russian secrets after torturing Russian prisoners to death (Germany murdered 4 million Russian captives during WW II. Something I never knew.) and then told them to Washington authorities in exchange for immunity.
They were exaggerated which then led to the cold war which is what he wanted since Germany turned against Russia and we were sorta allies with them in a fragile relationship.
It also shows some other truths of while we were not exactly friends with Nazi Germany some corporations had a business relationship with them and then post war we were influenced by or "befriended" some Nazis for help (See above.) and let them get away with their crimes.
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LorqVonRay1999 — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 03:09 AM)
The difference is the Europeans are always held accountable.
You never ever see any movie or documentary showing how god awful bad the Native Americans were. Not just to the evil racist slave-creating white man but to each other.
It's the same with slavery. Black people enslaved far more other black people than white people ever did.
Brazil brought over ten times the number of slaves from Africa compared to America and did it for a century longer.
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JustinCase — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 03:10 AM)
And just like that, right on cue!
I dunno why there is this denial of the atrocities against non whites by whites.
Slavery is another one where they mention that African tribes enslaved members of enemy tribes and sold them to us.
Their bizzaro logic is their wrongs make our wrongs right.
It doesn't make our crimes against those other races any better or takes them away even when they allegedly did the same things to themselves.
We are the problem and not the solution when we do that.
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JohnnyBoy — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 05:33 AM)
"The difference is the Europeans are always held accountable."
Always? I'll say 5%, maybe less, of the time, historically speaking.
Try Ulzana's Raid by Robert Aldrich to counter your point: "You never ever see any movie or documentary showing how god awful bad the Native Americans were."
I'm not disputing what you said about slavery. It's not even unique to blacks, either.
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JustinCase — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 06:56 AM)
That is all you can focus on.
We defeated you since you are not coming up with any counterpoints to what we are saying.
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