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LorqVonRay1999 — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 01:45 AM)
Native Americans stole land all the time, murdered, raped, abducted women and forced them to pregnancy, they violated any and all things at any time. And that was long before Europeans showed up.
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JustinCase — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 01:57 AM)
I have seen this bullshit argument before which is a failure to justify the massive murder genocide the whites did to them.
What you are doing with that is just trying to be in denial of the Amer. Indian holocaust the whites did to them.
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LorqVonRay1999 — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 02:03 AM)
Hell, Native Americans died mostly because of disease they had no built-up immunity to. Not any 'genocide'.
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JohnnyBoy — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 02:37 AM)
But that wasn't different from what the Europeans were doing at the time, right?
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JohnnyBoy — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 02:46 AM)
Yeah, the Dark Ages, the witchcraft stuff, the medieval tortures, and the Spanish Iniquisition.
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JustinCase — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 02:52 AM)
I shall try and remember to bring that up next time someone is in denial of the holocaust the Amer. Indians went through because of the illegal European immigrants that came here.
I dunno why there is this denial of the atrocities against non whites by whites.
Slavery is another one where they mention that African tribes enslaved members of enemy tribes and sold them to us.
Their bizzaro logic is their wrongs make our wrongs right.
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JohnnyBoy — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 05:26 AM)
I found A People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn to be a very interesting read, matching exactly what you're saying. There's a lot of hidden history covered. Some movies do a good job of touching these issues but got discarded so quickly that they remain obscure to this day. There are two additional books doing the same: Sundown Towns: A Hidden Dimension of American Racism and Lies My Teacher Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong from James Loewen.
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JustinCase — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 06:53 AM)
You have a good eye since I have read People's History, which gets a shout out in Good Will Hunting by Matt Damon.
It is indeed a real eye opener and has reshaped my opinions and views on what this country was really founded on and the influence behind so many of the wrongs it does by the rich, white powerful men in government and industry and their human oppressing agendas which still go on today.
While it does touch on the genocide of the Amer. Ind., starting with the torture, deaths and other horrors inflicted upon the peaceful Indians that met Columbus, most of what I learned instead comes from a book which is all about it called, Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee.
Both are very informative and disturbing reads on the truth.
Another one is a book that is in a graphic novel style called The Big Book of Conspiracy Theories, which also uncovers some truths behind a lot of CTs besides the JFK one.
Such as how the top spy for Nazi Germany was very influential in the formation of the CIA.
He had all these Russian secrets after torturing Russian prisoners to death (Germany murdered 4 million Russian captives during WW II. Something I never knew.) and then told them to Washington authorities in exchange for immunity.
They were exaggerated which then led to the cold war which is what he wanted since Germany turned against Russia and we were sorta allies with them in a fragile relationship.
It also shows some other truths of while we were not exactly friends with Nazi Germany some corporations had a business relationship with them and then post war we were influenced by or "befriended" some Nazis for help (See above.) and let them get away with their crimes.
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LorqVonRay1999 — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 03:09 AM)
The difference is the Europeans are always held accountable.
You never ever see any movie or documentary showing how god awful bad the Native Americans were. Not just to the evil racist slave-creating white man but to each other.
It's the same with slavery. Black people enslaved far more other black people than white people ever did.
Brazil brought over ten times the number of slaves from Africa compared to America and did it for a century longer.
When is the last time Brazil was held accountable for its past sins?
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JustinCase — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 03:10 AM)
And just like that, right on cue!
I dunno why there is this denial of the atrocities against non whites by whites.
Slavery is another one where they mention that African tribes enslaved members of enemy tribes and sold them to us.
Their bizzaro logic is their wrongs make our wrongs right.
It doesn't make our crimes against those other races any better or takes them away even when they allegedly did the same things to themselves.
We are the problem and not the solution when we do that.
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JohnnyBoy — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 05:33 AM)
"The difference is the Europeans are always held accountable."
Always? I'll say 5%, maybe less, of the time, historically speaking.
Try Ulzana's Raid by Robert Aldrich to counter your point: "You never ever see any movie or documentary showing how god awful bad the Native Americans were."
I'm not disputing what you said about slavery. It's not even unique to blacks, either.
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JustinCase — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 06:56 AM)
That is all you can focus on.
We defeated you since you are not coming up with any counterpoints to what we are saying.
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JustinCase — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 12:37 PM)
The difference is the Europeans are always held accountable.
What?
This?
That's because white men have been a dominant force of murdering and oppressive assholes against all other non white races.
If it was the Amer. Indians and the blacks that were doing to us what we did to them then those races would be accountable and we would be the minority victims.
You never ever see any movie or documentary showing how god awful bad the Native Americans were. Not just to the evil racist slave-creating white man but to each other.
And what purpose would that movie serve?
What opinions or feelings is this movie trying to generate?
No one cares what they were doing to each other.
What matters is the genocide of the American Indian Holocaust our side did to them.
It's the same with slavery. Black people enslaved far more other black people than white people ever did.
Brazil brought over ten times the number of slaves from Africa compared to America and did it for a century longer.
Again, so what?
Last time I checked this is America and our concerns are only with the suffering, control, dominance, violence and oppression we have put upon others here.
By suggesting they did the same things we did only to themselves does not at all lessen the horrible things we did to them.
That is what matters here.
What we did.
Not them.
Us or those on our side from our country that made others suffer and even die from being murdered.
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JustinCase — 8 months ago(July 19, 2025 10:03 PM)
Face the music and stop being in denial.
When we mass slaughter in a genocide and have slaves we are just as guilty as others who did it.
Everyone does bad things to each other and when we do the same things that does not justify it and instead just adds to the numbers of the suffering and dead that didn't have to be.
Instead of having a dick measuring contest we should be in agreement that it is all wrong no matter what inhumane horrible treatment one does to another anywhere on any scale and it should all end.
How you die does not redeem how you lived. - A black pastor on the life and death of Charlie Kirk