Why did the Mexican Goverment not Like It?
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LuisLEONFC — 14 years ago(January 14, 2012 09:55 PM)
You obviously didn't read the whole thing. Please inform yourself. More and more people with my point of view are coming out.100 years too late but the truth is coming out nonetheless.
Also, I was just explaining to you why Jurez is not a hero.
By the way, you are confusing yourself. Jurez has nothing to do with Mxico's independence(which is full of lies too, but I'm not getting into that right now. If you want to learn about it there are many books that do tell the true but I recommend you "Hidalgo e Iturbide, La Gloria y el olvido"), he was 15 when Mxico gained its independence.
Don't want to sound rude but, stop trying to tell me about my own culture. -
LuisLEONFC — 14 years ago(January 15, 2012 11:42 AM)
Meanwhile I remind you that I was just telling you why Jurez is not a hero. I should remind you also that you were the one who started talking about Jurez.
Also, it's not an excellent film if its based on lies.
Now leave. You don't know anything about Mxico or its culture. -
whatsupomar — 14 years ago(January 15, 2012 07:39 PM)
The only reason I mentioned "juaristas" is because you asked about the contents of the film. Since this is a blog for movie fans I could never imagine that you were after a political and/or historical argument. Frankly, I couldn't care less what YOU think about Juarez or anybody else. Obviously you have an ax to grind but picked the wrong place to do it.
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LuisLEONFC — 14 years ago(January 16, 2012 02:13 AM)
Ok, so we agree you don't know anything about Mxico?. Good!. You said that if I really was mexican then I should know Jurez is the acknowledged hero. After that I taught a bit of history lesson.
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Ok, so yeah, I won't be watching a film based on lies. That would be like me saying: "Man, you should watch this movie about Lincoln, in it, it depicts him as a horrible guy who in reality hated black people, its all lies but it's a good film!" -
whatsupomar — 14 years ago(January 16, 2012 05:35 AM)
I think we are wasting our time with this silly argument. Anybody who has lived in Mexico or has lived and worked among Mexicans knows that Juarez is considered a national hero who fought against the French emperor Maximilian. That's a historical fact. Everywhere in Mexico there are busts, statues and paintings of Juarez honoring him. They even named a city, Ciudad Juarez, after him. I've never seen a monument honoring Maximilian. You have a different view of history and you have every right to believe whatever you choose but don't come push it down our throats especially on a blog about cinema. THE END
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LuisLEONFC — 14 years ago(January 16, 2012 02:06 PM)
Sorry, but you are a moron. Take a time and read the last paragraph I wrote a while ago.
The people who really know about the history of Mxico know that Jurez was not a hero and they would be laughing at your face if you dared to say something as stupid as that.
By the way, I live in Ciudad Jurez, so stop trying to tell me about my own culture.
In these times, Mxico is in urgent need of truth. Living in deception has caused, in large part, many of the calamities we suffer. If we do not know the true history of Mexico, we can not know ourselves, nor explain much of what happens to us.
Jurez was the biggest traitor this nation has ever had. Even Juariztas acknowledge the McClane-Ocampo treaty.
Again, STOP TRYING TO TELL ME ABOUT MY OWN CULTURE. You don't know anything about it.
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normantater — 13 years ago(June 29, 2012 05:26 PM)
Pretty interesting Fernando. I am a Yank and don't know much about Mexico, sorry to say. I have read some on Cortez and the 1519 invasion but thats about it.It's too bad relations between us have always been so tense. Anyway, nevermind the other guy, it seems pertinent enough.
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LuisLEONFC — 13 years ago(July 14, 2012 12:07 AM)
Hello, Norman. Well, Spain and England are total opposites, and those opposites met in the Americas
I don't know much about U.S. history either, but what I do know is that the U.S. didn't kill its heroes, and Mxico did. Killing Agustn de Iturdibe and Maximilian I would be like the U.S. killing George Washington and Abraham Lincoln.
The history of Mxico is a very sad one, but we should tell it like it is, tell the truth.
Anyway, have a nice day
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Helpfan65 — 11 years ago(November 10, 2014 07:41 PM)
Iturdibe was a hero? Hero of what? He supported Spain during Mexico's struggle for independence, and when it became obvious that Spain wasn't going to hold on to Mexico, like all opportunists, he changed sides. Because he was European and conservative, he was able to have himself declared President but he couldn't wait to declare himself "Emperor Agustin" What a hero.
Mexico is one jacked up country because of an elite who pride themselves on their Spanish purity and who make it their mission in life to make sure the indigenous population remain in poverty. Is it any wonder that people turn to crime to get ahead down there?
I'm Mexican and I'm for Juarez all the way. Maximilian was a Hapsburg interloper put in power by Napoleon III and the Mexican elite who saw their power and money threatened by Juarez and his attempt to rein in the power of the Catholic Church and the 1% population who controlled all of Mexico
And the US has killed plenty of their heroes, John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King for starters.
Viva Juarez, Viva Zapata!
Get me a bromide - and put some gin in it!
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kevinwales1955-939-85433 — 13 years ago(March 02, 2013 09:33 AM)
According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tacámbaro
The army was Belgian. Admittedly there was a French woman, so I guess it was easy to be confused.
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gottfrid — 13 years ago(April 02, 2013 01:18 PM)
Im still to see this very talked-about classic, but Im pretty sure all nationalities involved are portrayed under a bad light. With exception of one american, Mr. Gary "Always-shiny" Cooper.
"It doesn't matter what Bram Stoker has told you dead people don't come back from their graves"