Here's the link
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — West Side Story
drjimmyjam — 12 years ago(March 15, 2014 06:48 PM)
Here's the link
http://popwatch.ew.com/2014/03/06/west-side-story-remake-steven-spielberg/
I am not happy to hear even a rumour at this stage, that a remake of West Side Story is in the works, be it Spielberg directing or whoever. For two main reasons; Firstly it's a very important film to me personally, and secondly, because I feel a line should be drawn in the sand with regards to remakes, especially in the case of films generally recognised by the history of popular culture as masterpieces of modern cinema. What's next? The Godfather?
If i felt there was enough opposition to this remake, I would like to quickly throw together a FB page, where 'liking' or 'joining' it would symbolise an individual's pledge to not see it (or at best, not spend money to see it.) But, reading some posts here, I can see that a lot of people would like to see it, or are open to the possibility of a remake.
Could I please get a quick show of hands here, who would be interested in this idea, bearing in mind that my arguments against would be more detailed on the actual page. Or if you think I'm being too precious and need to get out more, let me know that too!
cheers.
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friendoffilm — 12 years ago(March 29, 2014 07:23 AM)
When it comes to a
West Side Story
re-make by
anybody
,
including
Spielberg, I am one of the naysayers. I'm
totally
opposed to the idea of a remake of West Side Story, first because it's a sign that Hollywood has been running out of creative ideas, secondly because of what the results of a
West Side Story
remake would be, given today's standards and the present state of Hollywood, and thirdly because
West Side Story
just wouldn't be
West Side Story
if it were re-made, if one gets the drift. -
rorystevens — 11 years ago(April 23, 2014 12:21 AM)
I'm not against the idea of a remake, but I'd want it to be done well.
I think it would be interesting to see the story updated to a contemporary setting.
Maybe Spielberg could enlist someone like Pitbull to write some rap songs for the Sharks (or add some rap to some of the already existing songs)?
Maybe the Mambo dance at the gym could get a dubstep remix?
Maybe the story could be a little more realistic in which Tony and Maria actually have more time to fall in love and bond, instead of them falling in love and have him die the next evening? -
friendoffilm — 11 years ago(April 23, 2014 08:45 AM)
Hi againSorry to re-iterate my arguments against a re-make of the film
West Side Story
, but with corporation-oriented stuff that
passes
for talent these days, the fact that there's so much emphasis on rap music and other stuff like it, and the fact that movies today are so much more graphic and violent than they were back then, when the original classic film of
West Side Story
and other great classic films of that general period were made, I see nothing but an unmitigated piece of junk coming from this, which would go over like a lead balloon, which many re-makes of great classics have.
Seriouslywhy
should
the film
West SIde Story
, a
beautifully
dynamic classic that won
ten well-earned
Academy Awards,
including
Best Picture the year it came out (late October of 1961, to be exact.) be re-made, and possibly turned into a disgusting piece of junk? It
shouldn't
imho.
Imho
, If
West SIde Story
had come out any later than it did, or if there
was
a remake of it, the results would more than likely be as follows:
A) The romances between Tony and Maria, as well as between Bernardo and Anita would be much more explicitly sexual and much steamier, if one gets the drift.
B) The fighting scenes between the warring Jets and Sharks, especially the Rumble, would be much gorier, more violent, more graphic, and even bloodier.
C) The stabbing deaths of Riff and Bernardo during the Rumble, as well as the gunning down of Tony, would be much, much bloodier.
D) Ultra-powerful guns, rather than switchblade knives and fisticuffs, would more than likely be used during the Rumble, with more gore, blood and more deaths.
E) The language would be much harsher, and "bluer", and the cops would express their prejudices against both the Sharks and the Jets much more overtly, and they'd be much, much rougher on both gangs.
F) There would probably be no hints of a possible reconciliation between the two gangs, which was one of the purposes of
West Side Story
.
Having said all of the above, especially since most re-makes of films are disastrous anyway, there's
absolutely nothing
, imho, that beats the original.
Mr. Spielberg (or any other film director interested in a possible re-make of this great classic film), if you're listening in,
PLEASE
leave the classic film
West Side Story
alone and find something else of your liking to remake.
Thanks! -
rorystevens — 11 years ago(April 23, 2014 09:56 AM)
I'm not against the idea of a remake, but I'd want it to be done well.
I think it would be interesting to see the story updated to a contemporary setting.
Maybe Spielberg could enlist someone like Pitbull to write some rap songs for the Sharks (or add some rap to some of the already existing songs)?
Maybe the Mambo dance at the gym could get a dubstep remix?
Maybe the story could be a little more realistic in which Tony and Maria actually have more time to fall in love and bond, instead of them falling in love and have him die the next evening? -
friendoffilm — 11 years ago(April 23, 2014 05:52 PM)
I'm not against the idea of a remake, but I'd want it to be done well.
I think it would be interesting to see the story updated to a contemporary setting.
Maybe Spielberg could enlist someone like Pitbull to write some rap songs for the Sharks (or add some rap to some of the already existing songs)?
Maybe the Mambo dance at the gym could get a dubstep remix?
Maybe the story could be a little more realistic in which Tony and Maria actually have more time to fall in love and bond, instead of them falling in love and have him die the next evening?
Excuse me, rorystevens, but this is the
second
time you've posted this
exact
post,
word for word
. What gives here? Just curious.
Having said the above, I stand by
exactly everything
I've said, regarding my positions
against
a re-make of the film
West Side Story
.
Also, roryit sounds as if you're trying to manipulate me into adjusting my opinions so that they tally up with yours, which I will
not
do. I'm also of the opinion that you have
no
business getting up into my face by pasting your
exact
same posting after all my replies to you. Why don't you try a different tactic? -
tiburonbirdred — 11 years ago(June 07, 2014 10:01 PM)
Revival of the stage workno problem. A movie, no way. I don't have a problem with all re-adaptions, for example, if notable points had to be downplayed due to morality clauses in old Hollywood ie "Peyton Place the book vs the movie. But there are somethings that the magic just can't be recreated.
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friendoffilm — 11 years ago(June 08, 2014 08:00 AM)
Hi, tiburonbirdred. Thank you for an excellent post! Your points are well taken, and this:
But there are somethings that the magic just can't be recreated.
really brings home the point regarding a re-make of the film version of
West Side Story
. This great classic film is in a special class all by itself, because the magic in this film just simply
cannot
be recreated.
Most re-makes of movies have proved to be disasters, and I firmly believe that a re-make of the film
West Side Story
(no matter if it were Spielberg or anybody else who did that.) would be an
un
mitigated disaster, in
many
more ways than one! -
jschillig — 11 years ago(June 08, 2014 01:05 PM)
I wouldn't be against a new adaptation,
IF
they didn't try to make it ever-so-modern-and-hip. If it were me, I'd keep the setting in 1957 but give the gang members clothing that could look equally at home in 1957 or todayjeans and t-shirts in different shades of the same color for each gang, for example. I'd make sure that the gang members didn't look too cleaned-upthat they LOOKED like tough knocked-around street gangs.
I'd also remedy one of the most frequent criticisms of the movie version and cast a Tony who's believable as both tough ex-gang member AND lover. (One of the best, if not THE absolute best productions of WSS I've ever seenand that includes the tour of the revivalwas a small youth company's production that did just that with their Tony.) I mean, hell, even Richard Beymer himself expressed disbelief that "I was a kid from Iowa trying to pass myself off as an ex-gang leader."
The thing isI think that Spielberg could do it. He's shown a flair for time periods, whether it's the 1860s for Lincoln or the 1930s of the Indiana Jones flicksand later, in Crystal Skull, the same time period as WSS. (Say what you will about Crystal Skull, it did give an excellent sense of the late 50s time period.) -
friendoffilm — 11 years ago(June 08, 2014 06:32 PM)
I really don't know, jschillig. I still stand by my position that a re-make of the film version of
West Side Story
would be a disaster, regardless of who took on the job of re-making/directing
West Side Story
in the first place. It would just cut the heart and soul right out of this great film, and the magic in this film couldn't be re-created by anybody except the people who made this great musical/movie in the first place. I frankly don't think that, in today's world of expensive gadgets, computerized special affects, and overly graphic and explicitly sexual scenes and tons of "blue" language (I'm no stranger to "blue"language, btw), that a re-make of a movie that came out in the early 1960's would go over so well today, at all, because a re-make of
West Side Story
would be far too modern and too hip.
As for the casting of Richard Beymer, Richard Beymer had really wanted to play a Tony with more of an edge in West Side Story, but, due to certain directorial constraints put upon Beymer by (the late) Director Robert Wise, he was unable to. Beymer is said to have been so disappointed over the fact that he couldn't have played Tony with a little bit more of an "edge" to him that he walked out of the Premiere showing of the film
West Side Story
when it first came out.
Elvis Presley (remember him?), btw, was the first one that Robert Wise approached for the part of Tony in the film version of
West Side Story
, but was forced to turn down the part, due to an over-controlling manager. Elvis Presley regretted having turned down the opportunity to play the part of
West Side Story
's Tony after WSS became a hit as a film in the fall of 1961.
Elvis Presley did have the "tough but tender" look of an ex-gang member, as well as the personality for it, and he could sing, but I sincerely wonder how well Elvis's heavy Southern accent would've gone over in New York's Hollywoodl -
leader-7 — 11 years ago(July 26, 2014 05:52 AM)
The only point of a remake is to feed hollywood egos.
What really is going to be accomplished by a remake?
Who's going to choreograph it? Jerome Robbins' ballets in this were sheer dance perfection
What a foolhardy idea. -
friendoffilm — 11 years ago(July 26, 2014 05:37 PM)
The only point of a remake is to feed hollywood egos.
What really is going to be accomplished by a remake?
Who's going to choreograph it? Jerome Robbins' ballets in this were sheer dance perfection
What a foolhardy idea.
Hi, leader-7! Good to see you posting here again! Your points are all excellent ones that're well taken.
Hollywood has long run out of creative ideas, which is why so many re-makes and/or sequels of films are being done, now.
Nothing
beats the original, imho. -
leader-7 — 11 years ago(July 26, 2014 05:51 PM)
Hi!
Right~! I mean WHAT IS THE POINT of a remake of perfection!? idiotic.
Then they'll rewrite the script, and change the players and really, WSS is all about what it WAS THEN, not what they want to make it, for now. it's not about "contemporary."
No one is rewriting the Canterbury Tales, or Huck Finn. For.a.reason! -
friendoffilm — 11 years ago(July 26, 2014 09:57 PM)
Again, you've made some great, good points that make great, good sense, leader-7.
West Side Story
is what it is, and a re-make of this great classic film would be a disaster, because it would just cut the heart and soul right out of it, if one gets the drift. -
friendoffilm — 11 years ago(July 27, 2014 08:30 AM)
Not withstanding the fact that
West Side Story
is in such a special class all by itself that a re-make of it by
anybody
would be an unmitigated disaster, Steve spielberg is really
not
the kind of guy that I'd like to see re-making
West Side Story,
because his expertise in musical theatre is absolutely zero.
You're right, leader-7.
Steve Spielberg has made some good movies, but I seriously doubt that
West Side Story
would be among them, in any case, if one gets the drift. -
Buddy-51 — 11 years ago(September 04, 2014 11:50 PM)
I'm not looking forward to a remake of this film, but, in Spielberg's defense, it should at least be pointed out that Robert Wise also had no experience directing musicals when he took on this assignment. In fact, Spielberg reminds me a bit of Wise in that he's not afraid to branch out into different genres (SF, horror, action, social drama, historical fiction) and he always seems to do a first-rate job in all of them.
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friendoffilm — 11 years ago(September 05, 2014 12:27 AM)
Regardless of the prevailing opinion(s) regarding a re-make of the film version of
West Side Story
, I still belleve that a re-make of this fabulous classic would be an absolute and utter disaster. Another aspect of
West Side Story
(the film) is its subtlety, which, in turn, gives it its versatility. That being said,
I
personally envision a re-make of this particular film as being much more blatant, hyped-up, junkier and cheesier and devoid of the subtleties that give that great classic film its strength and versatility in the first place.
What it all boils down to is this: Imho,
nobody
, regardless of who they are, their experience with film-making, and their willingness to branch out and take risks (and I include Steven Spielberg here.), can be trusted with the re-making of a film such as
West Side Story
, which is too special for a re-make. This great classic that won 10 Academy Awards, including Best Picture on the year that it first came out (late October of 1961, to be exact.) is what it is, and nothing beats the original. I think that Steve Spielberg should show his great affection for this classic by leaving well enough alone and gravitate towards something else. -
StrongRex — 11 years ago(August 19, 2014 11:52 AM)
It has its own IMDb page:
http://www.imdb.com/board/13581652/?ref_=rvi_tt
