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    StrongRex — 13 years ago(November 29, 2012 08:48 PM)

    Oh okay, I see what you're saying. I think I just misunderstood your post.
    I said happy-go-lucky because when you watch the number, they're laughing and having a good time, even with their cynicism. And yeah, maybe I misunderstood that word as well. I only said it wasn't an angry song like so many people claim it to be; it's really only the last few lines that reveal their actual anger.
    And the fact that it's comical alone is enough to disqualify its place post-rumble. We are not supposed to laugh after Riff and Bernardo were murdered; we're just not. It's at that point where there is nothing but seriousness and there's not supposed to be any more "fun" to be had. I know you recognize this, but there are just so many who don't.
    And one point I made that no one else seems to try to refute is the fact of Action being completely out of character.

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      friendoffilm — 11 years ago(April 16, 2014 05:11 AM)

      in any case, I don't think that
      "Officer Krupke"
      should've been cut, at all, because that scene, too, is a very integral part of the story.
      I
      do
      agree with the decision to switch the order of
      Officer Krupke
      and the
      Cool
      scenes around when the film version of
      West Side Story
      was made, however.

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        friendoffilm — 11 years ago(April 16, 2014 05:13 AM)

        Thanks for an excellent post, Dan_the_Man_88. It's
        very
        spot-on, and it says many things that
        I
        wish that
        I
        could say, very articulately and succinctly. Bravo!

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          StrongRex — 11 years ago(September 09, 2014 07:32 PM)

          Thanks, friendoffilm. This is a topic I feel very strongly about.

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            friendoffilm — 11 years ago(September 10, 2014 10:28 AM)

            Hi, Dan_the_Man_88. You're welcome. Glad I was able to be of some help by giving you support and encouragement. You post about
            West Side Story
            , and other stuff so articulately that it's wonderful. Thanks very much again.

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              StrongRex — 10 years ago(April 08, 2015 11:03 PM)

              I'll need to post this sometime on the remake board. I need to edit and add needed arguments for this essay.

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                friendoffilm — 10 years ago(May 16, 2015 06:38 AM)

                This:
                I'll need to post this sometime on the remake board. I need to edit and add needed arguments for this essay.
                would be a cool idea! Go for it!!

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                  StrongRex — 10 years ago(September 07, 2015 03:53 PM)

                  Just posted it.
                  http://www.imdb.com/board/13581652/board/thread/248095965

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                    marvelass — 10 years ago(May 26, 2015 09:45 PM)

                    Now comes the contract from the theatrical leasing agency, Music Theater International. There were a bazillion clauses in the contract about what we could and couldnt do with the show. Among them

                    • We were NOT allowed to cut any music. This created a problem, because I wanted to trim the prologue and the dance break in COOL a little bit, due to having kids that werent really dancers, and because Im not a true choreographer.
                    • We were NOT allowed to add the boys into AMERICA. I hadnt planned on altering the song, I just wanted the boys in the number. We were strictly and specifically forbidden. I had to re-do all the choreography.
                    • We were NOT allowed to move COOL, KRUPKE, and I FEEL PRETTY from their original spots.
                      Frankly, I was surprised that their estates allowed
                      Glee
                      to do the film version of "America" when the kids put on a high school production of
                      West Side Story
                      .
                      They even altered it a little by having the Jets (and their girls) crash the song:
                      Anita & Shark Girls:
                      Here you are free and you have pride
                      Riff, Jets & Girls:
                      Long as you stay on your own side!
                      Anita & Shark Girls:
                      Free to be anything you choose
                      Riff, Jets & Girls:
                      Free to wait tables and shine shoes!
                      Even though it made no sense to have them there, it was a nice touch, nonetheless. That would be something they
                      would
                      say but only something you could get away with on a stage, where characters can interject even though they're not part of the scene.
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                      StrongRex — 10 years ago(May 26, 2015 09:54 PM)

                      That is interesting. I never got into Glee and don't plan to for personal reasons, but this is interesting. I wonder if it's because they know deep down, that the film version of "America" is better.

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                        Alchemistlover — 10 years ago(June 05, 2015 12:27 PM)

                        I had no idea Glee did that song until you mentioned it and actually really like that idea. You're right it wouldn't make sense them being there but it could also be the Sharks are imagining them saying that.

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                          MrJJay — 9 years ago(November 25, 2016 06:25 AM)

                          I didn't see the play yet (a great company is coming in may to Turkey which I'm hoping to see) but even then I agree with you 100. I'm hoping the company will adapt the film version but I know im just wishful thinking.
                          You have clarified your reasonings very articulately. There are many purists that consider the original always the best but that's not always the case. The structure of the film version is clearly better than the stage version. Even people here agree with you which is not something I would think as people generally tend to favour the original concept as I said. I wish the contract wouldn't insist on using only the stage version. You seem to have really grasped the core of the musical and I'm sure you will get the chance to play Tony one day. 🙂

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