I recently viewed the remake of Phoenix starring Dennis Quade as the Pilot and it was even more dissapointing than the r
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mmcglass-90045 — 9 years ago(July 29, 2016 05:07 PM)
Well, you could always cast his brother Randy instead. But, he's on the lam in Canada so you'd have to film out of the country.
Dennis has done some good films - I enjoyed his role in, "The Rookie." His role in The Alamo wasn't great - actually, since Dennis played the role of Sam Houston, a man who stood 6-6 and weighed in at around 260, his brother Randy might have been a better choice.
The original Flight of the Phoenix had guys like Jimmy Stewart, Richard Attenborough, Ernest Borgnineall three BIG TIME actors. It was a bit hard for Dennis Quaid and the gang to compete with that cast. -
XweAponX — 19 years ago(August 27, 2006 09:11 PM)
Maybe I better qualify that a bit:
The story is an exact remake of the original, plus or minus a few characters.
It does not really matter who played what: Of course Giovannobloghglagibsy is not the same guy as the compleat nerd as from the original, and there was nobody as cool as Jimmy Stewart, except for Archie Leech.
But thsi is 2004 not 1965: And so, the story is modernised so we can believe it: This guy that Quaid plays, is the equivalent of the dump truck driver. He is picking up the shi-ite. He hates doing it. Giovoblabbsy is NOT spoesed to be there, it fooks up everything, THEY CRASH.
The fookin crash was one of the best plane crashes I have seen, I hated some of the CGI, but then again, they used about 4 houses, and so there was probably crap that Moore hated. But ALL of the real action shots, look GReAT.
Now, the director: SO WHAT if he says "fook" every 3 words? Look where they were they were in Nambia, for crying in the beer.
He got the shots and we got the moovie, and it's a great moovie, it has all of the conflict of the original. It is just, THE DESERT becomes mroe of a character than it was in the original: It is like David Lean lent some of his desert footage to Moore.
I have no idea what the Gobi looks like, but they filmed this in an actual desert, NOT on a sound stage like the opriginal was.
There is a lot of stuff you got to consider. I think, in a way it is a better film, it has better shots.
However, I love the original which was why I rented this: And I enjoyed it. Because the last time I saw Flight etc was IN 1965, when it was made, and all I remember was that I liked it. And so I like this one too: The direcrtor went through a LOT of freakin trouble getting almost the exact same plane even from the original.
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gary_w_trott — 9 years ago(June 27, 2016 03:26 PM)
I agree with you. This is one of my favorite movies and I was very pleased with the remake because it did stay very true to the plot of the original. Granted Jimmy Stewart, Ernest Borgnine, Richard Attenborough, and George Kennedy are a tough act to followbut I still enjoyed the remake very much. It was a good movie.
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titaniumtiger29 — 19 years ago(September 28, 2006 06:28 PM)
I have yet to see the original, but it is on my list in the next few days. There are some things that I think this remake can do without, but I also think it has some strong points to it as well. I like how it looks. I love Ribsi's performance, even though I have yet to compare it to Attenborough's.
Its not the greatest movie in the world, but it definetly does not deserve the title for worst remake ever.
Johnny- 'Reed you suck. You beyond suck.'
Ben- 'You fantasti-suck.'
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titaniumtiger29 — 19 years ago(October 08, 2006 05:30 PM)
I just realized I made a mistake in comparing the two actors, my fault.
But I have watched the movie and I found it to be very well done. Not my most favorite movie of all time, but good none the less. In comparing the two I would have to say that the original was the better movie and story without the modern day 'Everything needs to be P.C.' with adding in race and sex.
Both movies have great performances (I enjoy listening to James Stewart's way of speaking), but 65 has the best story and character interaction and 04 has the better effects and and Ribsi! That guy is a great actor.
I will still stand with the fact that the 2004 version is not the worst remake ever.
Johnny- 'Reed you suck. You beyond suck.'
Ben- 'You fantasti-suck.'
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at7000 — 19 years ago(November 10, 2006 04:59 PM)
The DVD was on clearance for $6 and I bought it since I was a big fan of the original. I knew I was in trouble when I got back home and checked out the rating on the www.rottentomatoes.com website. The best critics gave it like a 19% approval rating. Whatever. I decided to give it a fair chance.
Whilst not the worst remake ever, it is up their on the top 20 list of worst remakes. The saddest part is that the original was a highly intelligent film along with intelligent dialog. This film seemed to be geared to viewers with the mental power of failing Junior High-School students.
Really, that part is just a tragedy. They sold out the best part of the original. I thought to myself, I wonder what a real director could have done with this, such as an Oliver Stone, a Scorcese, Fincher, Malik, Ridley Scott, or a Kubrick had he still lived.
Agreed, Quaid was just aweful and took the prize for it. But the rest of the cast were close runner ups. Even Giovanni Ribisi way overplayed his character, and this guy has done some very fine acting in other films.
This remake should die a slow painful deathno wonder it was on the DVD clearance rack. It should be burned.
I will concede, as someone else mentioned, the plane crash scene was quite good, and some of the cinematography was quite brilliant and beautiful. My DVD was a great quality print/film transfer. I watched it on plasma screen TV and it was sharp and clear as hell, about as good as I have seen for clarity, sharpness, color, etc If I want to show off my TV to friends for a few minutes, I would very well pop in this DVD. -
fashion103 — 19 years ago(December 24, 2006 01:36 PM)
You know what, I quite liked the remake. As long as you can differentiate between the two styles of film and just regard the remake as more of an entertaining Hollywood disaster type affair (and IMHO it is much better than most of the junk that gets spewed out of there these days), it serves its purpose well. Of course it can never match the origional, that is why it is a classic afterall, but the remake still has some entertainment value attatched to it. No, it doesn't do the origional justice, but for me it was at least entertaining.
"I wish they would quit casting Dennis Quaid in so many movies. He is possibly one of the worst actor's in Hollywood. I think he has 3 expressions,(1) sullen (2) anger (3) that stupid freakin' wide ass-oakie grin of his."
The only thing that I will say to that is have you seen Saviour? I was never a big fan of his either until I watched that. I think bar some heinous miscasting, he can have some moments of utter genious. That is the ONLY film which has managed to make me blub like a figging baby and I'm not ashamed to admit it! Just based on that one film, for me he went from a so, so type cast actor to one of my all time favorates. Of course, every one has different tastes, but if you haven't seen Saviour, I would seriously reccomend scourcing a copy. Moving doesn't even begin to describe it!
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PippyBra — 18 years ago(May 18, 2007 03:16 PM)
I saw the remake first and quite enjoyed it (even though I am a Stewart manic) but one thing REALLY irked me. I thought the scene where Giovanni Ribisi shot the prisoner was dramatic and shocking-then they go and tack that ridiculous ending on (where YAY he is on front cover of magazines and famous!), it just made you sit completely uncomfortable with the darkness of the character and ruined what I thought was quite a good and suprising character direction.
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lafferty812 — 19 years ago(March 25, 2007 11:51 AM)
Yeah Ribsi is a good actor but when compared to the guy who played the part in the first one he falls short. I was amazed it was even the same scene when Ribsi goes off about toy airplanes are different from model ones. It just was not as good
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albedo-2 — 19 years ago(January 06, 2007 03:07 PM)
I'll admit that I haven't seen the remake (and don't plan to)
but what you've described is JUST what I expected: Modern
movie trash. The original is a gem, and I have it on DVD and
watched it again last night. I watch it every couple of
years I'd guess. If only this story could've been true!
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L_Forster — 19 years ago(January 14, 2007 05:08 PM)
For some strange reason, Hollywood has the mentality of: "Well, it worked before, we'll updated it, and launch it and see if it will fly again." Unfortunately the biggest problem with remakes is that they don't contain the key elements that made the original so successful. That is, the original cast, director, and the advantage of being a new concept. I agree, the remake wasn't up to the original. I wish Hollywood would spend as much effort trying to come up with new concepts and new scripts as they do trying to "improve" on the original tried and true ones. It's almost like trying to counterfit currancy, all you're going to have in the end is a colorful piece of paper that isn't worth crap. I saw this movie when I was in my early teens. I now have it on DVD. I would prefer watching an original of any story over and over than enduring a generic, updated remake. I salute the original cast and crew, and my condolences to anyone attached with the remake.
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brian-j-huffman — 19 years ago(January 26, 2007 01:28 PM)
Did you notice that nobody in the remake seemed especially hungry or thirsty. They all had the attitude of people on some sort of rock-and-roll picnic.
My favorite contrastIn the 1965 movie Sgt. Watson (probably the most dull-witted person on the plane) asks Standish about the name on the plane. His question wasn't on the meaning of the word Phoenix but rather a sort of "why bother to name it?" When Standish starts to explain what the Phoenix was Watson cuts him off saying, "I'm not bloody stupid." Meaning anyone should know what the Phoenix was. But in the new movie people really don't know and only Captain Townes is smart enough to be able to answer the question.
The political correctness of the new film doesn't end with gender and race either. The quote about religion dividing people was the product of a Hollywood culture that can't stay married more than 10 minutes and yet they know what it takes to keep people togethergive me an beep break. -
porfle — 18 years ago(May 24, 2007 10:15 AM)
For some strange reason, Hollywood has the mentality of: "Well, it worked before, we'll updated it, and launch it and see if it will fly again."
Sounds just like what they did with the plane in the movie! Maybe Dorfmann went on to become a movie director who specialized in remakes.
Lou: I think what Frank means ishow much experience have you got directingthe real thing?
Dorfmann: The"real" thing?
Lou: Yes, you knowfeatures. Full-length films.
Dorfmann: (laughs) Oh no, no. You misunderstand. We make only television commercials.
Frank: Televisioncommercials
Dorfmann: Yes. But of course, the principles are exactly the same.
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