I recently viewed the remake of Phoenix starring Dennis Quade as the Pilot and it was even more dissapointing than the r
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titaniumtiger29 — 19 years ago(October 08, 2006 05:30 PM)
I just realized I made a mistake in comparing the two actors, my fault.
But I have watched the movie and I found it to be very well done. Not my most favorite movie of all time, but good none the less. In comparing the two I would have to say that the original was the better movie and story without the modern day 'Everything needs to be P.C.' with adding in race and sex.
Both movies have great performances (I enjoy listening to James Stewart's way of speaking), but 65 has the best story and character interaction and 04 has the better effects and and Ribsi! That guy is a great actor.
I will still stand with the fact that the 2004 version is not the worst remake ever.
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at7000 — 19 years ago(November 10, 2006 04:59 PM)
The DVD was on clearance for $6 and I bought it since I was a big fan of the original. I knew I was in trouble when I got back home and checked out the rating on the www.rottentomatoes.com website. The best critics gave it like a 19% approval rating. Whatever. I decided to give it a fair chance.
Whilst not the worst remake ever, it is up their on the top 20 list of worst remakes. The saddest part is that the original was a highly intelligent film along with intelligent dialog. This film seemed to be geared to viewers with the mental power of failing Junior High-School students.
Really, that part is just a tragedy. They sold out the best part of the original. I thought to myself, I wonder what a real director could have done with this, such as an Oliver Stone, a Scorcese, Fincher, Malik, Ridley Scott, or a Kubrick had he still lived.
Agreed, Quaid was just aweful and took the prize for it. But the rest of the cast were close runner ups. Even Giovanni Ribisi way overplayed his character, and this guy has done some very fine acting in other films.
This remake should die a slow painful deathno wonder it was on the DVD clearance rack. It should be burned.
I will concede, as someone else mentioned, the plane crash scene was quite good, and some of the cinematography was quite brilliant and beautiful. My DVD was a great quality print/film transfer. I watched it on plasma screen TV and it was sharp and clear as hell, about as good as I have seen for clarity, sharpness, color, etc If I want to show off my TV to friends for a few minutes, I would very well pop in this DVD. -
fashion103 — 19 years ago(December 24, 2006 01:36 PM)
You know what, I quite liked the remake. As long as you can differentiate between the two styles of film and just regard the remake as more of an entertaining Hollywood disaster type affair (and IMHO it is much better than most of the junk that gets spewed out of there these days), it serves its purpose well. Of course it can never match the origional, that is why it is a classic afterall, but the remake still has some entertainment value attatched to it. No, it doesn't do the origional justice, but for me it was at least entertaining.
"I wish they would quit casting Dennis Quaid in so many movies. He is possibly one of the worst actor's in Hollywood. I think he has 3 expressions,(1) sullen (2) anger (3) that stupid freakin' wide ass-oakie grin of his."
The only thing that I will say to that is have you seen Saviour? I was never a big fan of his either until I watched that. I think bar some heinous miscasting, he can have some moments of utter genious. That is the ONLY film which has managed to make me blub like a figging baby and I'm not ashamed to admit it! Just based on that one film, for me he went from a so, so type cast actor to one of my all time favorates. Of course, every one has different tastes, but if you haven't seen Saviour, I would seriously reccomend scourcing a copy. Moving doesn't even begin to describe it!
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PippyBra — 18 years ago(May 18, 2007 03:16 PM)
I saw the remake first and quite enjoyed it (even though I am a Stewart manic) but one thing REALLY irked me. I thought the scene where Giovanni Ribisi shot the prisoner was dramatic and shocking-then they go and tack that ridiculous ending on (where YAY he is on front cover of magazines and famous!), it just made you sit completely uncomfortable with the darkness of the character and ruined what I thought was quite a good and suprising character direction.
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lafferty812 — 19 years ago(March 25, 2007 11:51 AM)
Yeah Ribsi is a good actor but when compared to the guy who played the part in the first one he falls short. I was amazed it was even the same scene when Ribsi goes off about toy airplanes are different from model ones. It just was not as good
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albedo-2 — 19 years ago(January 06, 2007 03:07 PM)
I'll admit that I haven't seen the remake (and don't plan to)
but what you've described is JUST what I expected: Modern
movie trash. The original is a gem, and I have it on DVD and
watched it again last night. I watch it every couple of
years I'd guess. If only this story could've been true!
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L_Forster — 19 years ago(January 14, 2007 05:08 PM)
For some strange reason, Hollywood has the mentality of: "Well, it worked before, we'll updated it, and launch it and see if it will fly again." Unfortunately the biggest problem with remakes is that they don't contain the key elements that made the original so successful. That is, the original cast, director, and the advantage of being a new concept. I agree, the remake wasn't up to the original. I wish Hollywood would spend as much effort trying to come up with new concepts and new scripts as they do trying to "improve" on the original tried and true ones. It's almost like trying to counterfit currancy, all you're going to have in the end is a colorful piece of paper that isn't worth crap. I saw this movie when I was in my early teens. I now have it on DVD. I would prefer watching an original of any story over and over than enduring a generic, updated remake. I salute the original cast and crew, and my condolences to anyone attached with the remake.
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brian-j-huffman — 19 years ago(January 26, 2007 01:28 PM)
Did you notice that nobody in the remake seemed especially hungry or thirsty. They all had the attitude of people on some sort of rock-and-roll picnic.
My favorite contrastIn the 1965 movie Sgt. Watson (probably the most dull-witted person on the plane) asks Standish about the name on the plane. His question wasn't on the meaning of the word Phoenix but rather a sort of "why bother to name it?" When Standish starts to explain what the Phoenix was Watson cuts him off saying, "I'm not bloody stupid." Meaning anyone should know what the Phoenix was. But in the new movie people really don't know and only Captain Townes is smart enough to be able to answer the question.
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porfle — 18 years ago(May 24, 2007 10:15 AM)
For some strange reason, Hollywood has the mentality of: "Well, it worked before, we'll updated it, and launch it and see if it will fly again."
Sounds just like what they did with the plane in the movie! Maybe Dorfmann went on to become a movie director who specialized in remakes.
Lou: I think what Frank means ishow much experience have you got directingthe real thing?
Dorfmann: The"real" thing?
Lou: Yes, you knowfeatures. Full-length films.
Dorfmann: (laughs) Oh no, no. You misunderstand. We make only television commercials.
Frank: Televisioncommercials
Dorfmann: Yes. But of course, the principles are exactly the same.
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Vampenguin — 18 years ago(June 02, 2007 11:31 AM)
I've also yet to see the original (sorry), but the 2004 version is easily one of the worst movies that I've ever seen. I obviously cant compare it to the original, but it was just flat out awful in every aspect beyond the plot (which I liked). It even made Hugh Laurie look bad!
Death is but a door, time is but a windowI will be back.
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steve-taylor17 — 13 years ago(June 04, 2012 03:15 AM)
Speaking of crappy ones, perhaps one day they will do a remake of "Waterworld" - that would surely break the mould of remakes always being inferior to the original - there is nothing anyone could do to make "Waterworld" a worse picture.
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JurorNr13 — 16 years ago(April 25, 2009 05:23 PM)
I agree that the remake is horrible, but including a woman and a couple of african americans has nothing to do with it. This could have been used to the remake's advantage, but wasn't, which doesn't mean that it works against it. It just turned out to be unnecessary.
The remake suffers from a bad screenplay, bad acting, bad dialogue, horrible directing and editing, cheap CGI and a terrible soundtrack.