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    albedo-2 — 19 years ago(January 06, 2007 03:07 PM)

    I'll admit that I haven't seen the remake (and don't plan to)
    but what you've described is JUST what I expected: Modern
    movie trash. The original is a gem, and I have it on DVD and
    watched it again last night. I watch it every couple of
    years I'd guess. If only this story could've been true!
    That plane would have to be in the Smithsonian today.

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      L_Forster — 19 years ago(January 14, 2007 05:08 PM)

      For some strange reason, Hollywood has the mentality of: "Well, it worked before, we'll updated it, and launch it and see if it will fly again." Unfortunately the biggest problem with remakes is that they don't contain the key elements that made the original so successful. That is, the original cast, director, and the advantage of being a new concept. I agree, the remake wasn't up to the original. I wish Hollywood would spend as much effort trying to come up with new concepts and new scripts as they do trying to "improve" on the original tried and true ones. It's almost like trying to counterfit currancy, all you're going to have in the end is a colorful piece of paper that isn't worth crap. I saw this movie when I was in my early teens. I now have it on DVD. I would prefer watching an original of any story over and over than enduring a generic, updated remake. I salute the original cast and crew, and my condolences to anyone attached with the remake.

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        brian-j-huffman — 19 years ago(January 26, 2007 01:28 PM)

        Did you notice that nobody in the remake seemed especially hungry or thirsty. They all had the attitude of people on some sort of rock-and-roll picnic.
        My favorite contrastIn the 1965 movie Sgt. Watson (probably the most dull-witted person on the plane) asks Standish about the name on the plane. His question wasn't on the meaning of the word Phoenix but rather a sort of "why bother to name it?" When Standish starts to explain what the Phoenix was Watson cuts him off saying, "I'm not bloody stupid." Meaning anyone should know what the Phoenix was. But in the new movie people really don't know and only Captain Townes is smart enough to be able to answer the question.
        The political correctness of the new film doesn't end with gender and race either. The quote about religion dividing people was the product of a Hollywood culture that can't stay married more than 10 minutes and yet they know what it takes to keep people togethergive me an beep break.

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          Adam60z — 19 years ago(January 27, 2007 01:33 PM)

          Good observations, Brian. I didn't bother to see the remake, but love the original.
          Play the game existence 'til the endof the beginning

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            PippyBra — 18 years ago(May 19, 2007 04:15 PM)

            And everyone just stayed pretty, no sun burn for them!
            "Oh Jerry, don't let's ask for the moon. We have the stars."

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              porfle — 18 years ago(May 24, 2007 10:15 AM)

              For some strange reason, Hollywood has the mentality of: "Well, it worked before, we'll updated it, and launch it and see if it will fly again."
              Sounds just like what they did with the plane in the movie! Maybe Dorfmann went on to become a movie director who specialized in remakes.
              Lou: I think what Frank means ishow much experience have you got directingthe real thing?
              Dorfmann: The"real" thing?
              Lou: Yes, you knowfeatures. Full-length films.
              Dorfmann: (laughs) Oh no, no. You misunderstand. We make only television commercials.
              Frank: Televisioncommercials
              Dorfmann: Yes. But of course, the principles are exactly the same.
              http://www.bumscorner.com
              http://www.myspace.com/porfle

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                PippyBra — 18 years ago(May 25, 2007 03:36 PM)

                Haha, porfle!
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                  Vampenguin — 18 years ago(June 02, 2007 11:31 AM)

                  I've also yet to see the original (sorry), but the 2004 version is easily one of the worst movies that I've ever seen. I obviously cant compare it to the original, but it was just flat out awful in every aspect beyond the plot (which I liked). It even made Hugh Laurie look bad!

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                    TooSlim — 18 years ago(October 11, 2007 12:40 PM)

                    To paraphrase the immortal John Waters..Why do people try to remake GREAT films?? They need to remake the crappy ones!!!!

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                        byteM3 — 14 years ago(July 18, 2011 12:34 AM)

                        Heh
                        Killing people is easyif you can forget the taste of sugar.

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                          steve-taylor17 — 13 years ago(June 04, 2012 03:15 AM)

                          Speaking of crappy ones, perhaps one day they will do a remake of "Waterworld" - that would surely break the mould of remakes always being inferior to the original - there is nothing anyone could do to make "Waterworld" a worse picture.

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                            JurorNr13 — 16 years ago(April 25, 2009 05:23 PM)

                            I agree that the remake is horrible, but including a woman and a couple of african americans has nothing to do with it. This could have been used to the remake's advantage, but wasn't, which doesn't mean that it works against it. It just turned out to be unnecessary.
                            The remake suffers from a bad screenplay, bad acting, bad dialogue, horrible directing and editing, cheap CGI and a terrible soundtrack.

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                              dragonofskies — 16 years ago(June 12, 2009 11:22 AM)

                              Absolutely right. I give this 8/10. And 2/10 to the remake. It couldn't have been worse. The only good thing i remember about this, is Giovanni Ribisi.

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                                gjampol — 16 years ago(June 12, 2009 09:46 PM)

                                The visceral responses to this film are overwrought. It is far the worst remake. I saw it before watching the original. Both films have their virtues, and the hysterically bad reviews don't carry any sway with me.
                                The remake is technically more interesting, but the original stars James Stewart, who is better in the role than Dennis Quaid.
                                If I was tempted to burn anything, it would't be the film but the negative reviews.

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                                  tgbclm — 16 years ago(June 13, 2009 03:41 AM)

                                  the negative reviews are human rights at the most basic of levelsyour desire to burn then are nazi
                                  I see a man..and I take away reason and accountability..Jack Nicolson..As Good As It Gets.

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                                    jfegley1 — 16 years ago(July 05, 2009 11:08 AM)

                                    There are many remakes that I will not attempt to watch and this is one of them.

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                                      Homestead2 — 15 years ago(September 14, 2010 12:18 PM)

                                      The 1965 film is 10 times better - no, 100 times better - than the remake (it wasn't nominated for 2 Oscars for nothing - and that in a year that included films such as The Sound of Music and Doctor Zhivago), with the dumbest line in the remake (and perhaps of that entire year in film) being when they are about to take off:
                                      "We make our own luck!"
                                      Yuck

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                                        texasbillyaustin — 15 years ago(September 14, 2010 12:28 PM)

                                        I just posted on another topic on this movie. As remakes go, I only watched it as it came on cable one morning, nothing else was on, and I wanted to be able to tell people how much the remake would suffer greatly to the original. And after watching it, I couldn't be more right. Some good actors in the remake, but not even close to the original on just about every level. He's a good actor, but Dennis Quaid is no Jimmy Stewart. However, another actor in that role still wouldn't have helped the movie that much.
                                        I can only say the one thing you'll get out of watching the remake is a renewed, affirmed appreciation of the masterpiece original. And with remakes these days, no big surprise.

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                                          evikeaz — 14 years ago(July 03, 2011 06:51 PM)

                                          nvr saw the original, nvr even knew one existed till i finished the film and went on here. i really liked the movie and will probably rent the original.

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