Are they supposed to be gay?
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Platonic_Caveman — 4 years ago(July 10, 2021 08:34 PM)
Adlerian is pretending this is similar to ridiculous charges that there is homosexual sublimation in everything, like Batman and Robin for example.
But you used the word "supposed". Of course as represented, the Odd Couple were heterosexuals. But I believe it was based on a homosexual relationship.
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Deluded Juice — 4 years ago(July 10, 2021 07:12 PM)
In your opinion or have you ever heard that Tony Unger was a friend of Dorothy?
He was a breeder at a late age and some chick claims he was doing that to hide being gay.
I think that was just her speculation.
What do you think or what have you may have heard?
Wait.
Tony Unger?
LOL
I was combining two names and didn't mean to!
I mean Tony Randall!
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Platonic_Caveman — 4 years ago(July 11, 2021 04:43 AM)
Okay, my bad, the OP said Neil Simon was gay so I went with that. I googled a bit and I can't find any evidence that Simon was gay. However, Simon had a following in the gay community and the homosexual aura of
The Odd Couple
is widely discussed.
Tony Randal was not gay either. But he played a gay stereotype. And he did play a closeted gay man in a tv series,
Love, Sydney
.
What Neil Simon Gave His LGBTQ Audience
When considering what is there in Simon’s work for the LGBTQ community, one has to consider The Odd Couple. Though ostensibly the story of a pair of bachelor roommates, fussy Felix and outré Oscar, the play (which went on to become a film and television series) was, in many ways, a portrait of day-to-day male couplehood that one could describe as proto-gay. Also, without Felix and Oscar, we wouldn’t have had Bert and Ernie — the Sesame Street characters that gave many of us our first ideas of what a life could look like outside a traditional heterosexual-couple-as-heads-of-household paradigm.
https://metrosource.com/how-should-the-lgbtq-community-remember-neil-simon/
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I love hutch — 4 years ago(July 11, 2021 05:10 AM)
I always thought that Tony Randall was gay. But regardless, he did come across as effeminate. Even in "Pillow Talk", I thought he was prissy.
In the movie version, Jack Lemmon does not seem gay or behave effeminately.
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Platonic_Caveman — 4 years ago(July 11, 2021 06:25 AM)
Actually, while Tony Randall often plays a gay stereotype, Jack Lemmon tends to play characters more like gay men in real life. Just my observation.
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TheAdlerian — 4 years ago(July 11, 2021 05:12 AM)
Love Sydney was a good show.
He was a lonely guy who found a family in a single mom and daughter.
Meanwhile, Felix is the same as the Sherlock Holmes personality I mentioned. It has nothing to do with liking HOMOSEXUAL SEX and to do with mastering pointless minute details at the lose of the big picture of life.
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Platonic_Caveman — 4 years ago(July 11, 2021 06:22 AM)
What's all this Sherlock Holmes talk? Was he a raging queen?
The word
homo
comes from the Greek for "same". It simple refers to the
same
sex,
sex
as in gender. It doesn't always mean
****ing
.
<<< [gay eyes]
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Deluded Juice — 4 years ago(July 11, 2021 11:25 AM)
And that could be my bad in claiming that Simon was gay.
I could have sworn that when he died I saw something about a male partner that was in his will or that survived him.
Instead what I came across was a mention that his first wife starred in Goodbye Girl and his current one with their kids was with him when he passed.
So I dunno what I saw the first time or where it was.
Perhaps it was from Toy Cannon on his RIP thread for Simon.
TC is known for spreading falsehoods in his "obit" threads.
Like he claimed that Tom Petty was dead before he actually was.
And that Larry King died of Covid when he did not.
So I would not be surprised if that is where I saw a possible BS claim that Simon was gay.
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Platonic_Caveman — 4 years ago(July 11, 2021 04:00 PM)
Yeah, like the one I posted above about Neil Simon and his affinity with the LGBT community and how
The Odd Couple
was made to appeal to gays in more homophobic times.
What Neil Simon Gave His LGBTQ Audience
https://metrosource.com/how-should-the-lgbtq-community-remember-neil-simon/
Toy Cannon is a weird dude now that you mention him.
First, is that black guy in his avatar pic him?
Second, he's generally a decent guy but I got in a bizarre argument with him once on the Politics board.
So if he trolls, that explains a lot.
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Deluded Juice — 4 years ago(July 11, 2021 07:10 PM)
First, is that black guy in his avatar pic him?
No.
That is the baseball player he got his screen name from who had the weird nickname of Toy Cannon.
Whatever the **** that is supposed to mean.
Maybe a nickname for his dick?
I know what you mean.
Myself and others thought that poster TC was black because of his choice of Avi.
Second, he's generally a decent guy but I got in a bizarre argument with him once on the Politics board.
Yeah, once he called me a "son of a bitch" and then later on that same day he had to go to the hospital for a serious medical condition!
Talk about karma!
LOL
Another time he pointed out that his family members were part of the cruel "sport" of horse racing.
I dunno if you are aware of how brutal it really is for the horses.
Like there are lots, not just a few, but lots of them who get injured and lose their lives on the track each year.
They are forced to run with injuries.
The majority go to slaughter houses, even the winners, when they are retired.
I pointed out how his family was involved with this cruelty and he was in denial and defended those ****ers.
So yeah. The death hag sometimes seems OK but then turns into a real dirt eater when he gets mad where you might bring up any objections in anything he posts.
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Platonic_Caveman — 4 years ago(July 13, 2021 01:09 AM)
"The death hag"?
I wasn't sure who that is in his avatar. It's a pleasant enough looking guy but he looks a bit like an overgrown dwarf.
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Deluded Juice — 4 years ago(July 13, 2021 11:52 AM)
Death hag is a term for fans of celeb deaths that I picked up off of the Find A Death website.
Started by Scott Michaels who also started the Dearly Departed Tours which takes you to famous and infamous places around H.Wood showing things related to famous ppl who died.
It is one of my favorite websites which describes the final moments of a lot of actors and actresses in the directory.
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Deluded Juice — 4 years ago(July 13, 2021 04:20 PM)
Yeah an inside name or joke on the website and among his fans, I guess.
He even had "Death Hag" bumper stickers and would post pics where folks laid them on celebs grave markers.
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Deluded Juice — 4 years ago(July 14, 2021 12:32 AM)
Thank you.
Yes.
"Real Sports" is a 60 Min. type of show on HBO only it is all about inside and investigative reporting on just sport topics.
One of those was horse racing which was a real eye opener.
Even though I am against all of it, it did show that America is totally cruel to the horses where in Europe they do not mistreat them.