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Alpha Raven Andromeda — 6 years ago(October 28, 2019 05:34 PM)
I did not realise you liked horror movies. You've always given us the impression that horror movies scared you too much and you had nightmares.
I'm kind of burned out discussing those Alien movies, so I'm staying out of this discussion unless someone has something completely new to contribute. -
Alpha Raven Andromeda — 6 years ago(October 28, 2019 06:17 PM)
Okay.
Well it looks like the video you shared is a splice of before and after the final edit. I wouldn't know the specifics because I'm not a film editor or film director. Spiderwort would could definitely provide a more clear explanation than I could. But he's not here and I don't think he likes horror movies. Tag him in this thread, see if he responds. -
Woodyanders — 6 years ago(October 28, 2019 07:13 PM)
The alien crab walking towards Lambert takes too long. Moreover, Lambert seems like more of a pathetic simp in the extended version of this scene. Just run the hell away from it!
You've seen Guy Standeven in something because the man was in everything. -
Alpha Raven Andromeda — 6 years ago(October 28, 2019 10:46 PM)
Before final cut
The full sequence after final cut w/visual effects. The Alien is a man in a suit, but post production, the final cut looks like this
The first time I saw Alien, that was one of the scenes that scared the crap out of me. I prefer Aliens more though because the terror and suspense is hyped full throttle. -
Alpha Raven Andromeda — 6 years ago(October 28, 2019 10:57 PM)
I don't remember the specifics anymore. I think that the technology wasn't available to show the Alien creature in its entirety like these days. Even the most recent Alien movies keep the tradition of the original movie by not showing much of the Alien at all. It's all part of the creatures hunting strategy now. It blends into the dark, hides, sneaks up and attacks mostly.
Even the ending battle between Ripley and it, you can still tell that the Alien is a man wearing that costume. -
None — 6 years ago(October 28, 2019 11:22 PM)
Yeah, we were still used to men in rubber suits back then but they were trying for something less schlocky. Bolaji Badejo was very tall and thin and they used that to make the alien look less human but in the end it was still a tall thin man in a costume.
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Alpha Raven Andromeda — 6 years ago(October 28, 2019 11:46 PM)
I believe there was a design of the xenomorph first without factoring in Bolaji before filming. Bolaji was the best they could use at that time to satisfy the height of the creature. In later films, some of the xenomorphs appear even taller than Bolaji.
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Alpha Raven Andromeda — 6 years ago(October 28, 2019 11:42 PM)
The director has a vision of how he wants the movie to look and tell the story. Each scene and sequence are part of the plot. What we see in the final cut is mostly how Ridley Scott wanted it to look. It's an artform.
The Alien is a lifeform from another planet. It's not supposed to appear as a man in a suit. Also, working on a budget, there are limitations. A man wearing a xenomorph suit cannot show more of the Alien's hunting style and its abilities like jumping, swimming through water, running on walls.
Do you know anything about the filmmaking process besides fighting with posters on movie discussion sites? -
AnthonyRocks — 4 years ago(January 25, 2022 04:48 PM)
Have you ever seen the Deleted Scene in "
ALIEN
" when after Ripley activates the Self-Destruct System aboard the ship, she is running through the ship and then climbs down a ladder into this dark area which turns out to be the Alien's lair and inside of it, she finds both Brett and Captain Dallas cocooned ?