Unionist or Republican?
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Platonic_Caveman — 6 years ago(March 18, 2020 09:05 PM)
I've changed my opinion drastically on Ireland. I was into the leftist bullshit of supporting every downtrodden victim of imperialism. I now realize it's in the world's best interest to support a strong United Kingdom.
But it would be interesting to see how Ireland would screw up Ulster even further. They would also have revitalized Unionist terrorists to deal with. Does Dublin want that? I think it's best for all to leave the status quo.
London is a much better master than Dublin. London ruled the world. Dublin keeled over at the first sign of a potato blight.
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None — 6 years ago(March 18, 2020 09:16 PM)
Ireland was still under British rule during the famine and our government made matters worse for them.
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Platonic_Caveman — 6 years ago(March 18, 2020 09:34 PM)
Jeezus christ. Do you also deny that the British Empire was one of the greatest 'nations' ever? It brought parliamentary government to the world. Without the British you'd probably still have some autocratic Raj ruling India. It ended up being about bringing democratic government and technology to the world.
If Britain made the Irish famine worse, very well. Still, compare the two nations. Ireland buckled under to a goddamn potato blight.
Ulster is better off staying in the U.K.
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None — 6 years ago(March 18, 2020 10:54 PM)
Yeah, we looked after that country so well only one million people died during the famine. It’s one of the reasons why thousands decided to go live in the US (a country that also didn’t appreciate the way we governed them).
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Platonic_Caveman — 6 years ago(March 18, 2020 10:59 PM)
Okay. I see a parallel between your attitude towards the U.K. and the attitude of American liberals towards the U.S. Sure, we need to expose the injustices of our own countries. But it can become egregious and stifling.
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Platonic_Caveman — 6 years ago(March 18, 2020 11:11 PM)
Nah, I was just pointing out the difference between a successful country like the U.K. and a backwards one like Ireland.
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Platonic_Caveman — 6 years ago(March 18, 2020 11:17 PM)
No, I've never been there. I'm talking historically over the centuries. Ireland was always considered one of the poor men of Europe. Of course now, anywhere in Europe is superior to anywhere else.
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Jared Kushner — 6 years ago(March 18, 2020 11:25 PM)
Ireland is a far different place to what it was even 60 years ago. It's been a pretty modern country with a highly, highly literate population that, coupled with lots of corporate tax breaks so that high-tech and branch-plants would move there, made its economy roar for quite a long time.
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Platonic_Caveman — 6 years ago(March 18, 2020 11:57 PM)
I had heard that. They call it the Celtic Tiger in comparison to the successful Asian Tigers like Singapore and Taiwan.
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Platonic_Caveman — 6 years ago(March 18, 2020 11:59 PM)
Are you complete against the British Empire? You don't think it did any good by bringing democracy to countries like India?
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