"Would you honestly kill johnny rather than simply arresting him?"
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FEL123_2000 — 11 years ago(July 28, 2014 01:04 AM)
I always took that scene as showing that Max was so mentally screwed up by that point that trying to be fair wasn't on his mind anymore. He just wanted to kill.
"If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything." -George McFly
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gressos — 11 years ago(September 03, 2014 09:05 AM)
That's a tough one,actually.Max's revenge on Johnny is,indeed, one of the most brutal ever filmed.Johnny sure looks more like a spoiled brat in the final scene rather than a gang member.The viewer cannot guarantee that he believes what he says to Max about ''bad people''..'' I am not with them''.He most likely does not.As far as his actions throughout the movie are concerned,he committed murder almost ''taken by the hand'' in the Goose death scene.(Remember the preceding scene,where he tries to tolerate burning his hand with a lighter's flame and cannot go along with it?) Maybe the director's choice to have this particular character suffer the worst of Max's revenge is deliberate in order to illustrate Max's words to Fifi ''it's that rat circus out there,I'm beginning to enjoy it''.And this is accompanied with loneliness,as the final,endless,white line travelling shot indicates.
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nekcron-99 — 11 years ago(September 21, 2014 08:44 PM)
So OP, (and I don't expect any kind of answer from you since you haven't posted since 2010 or so) when the future setting of this movie catches up with us in a couple of years (chuckle) and a biker gang comes along and rapes yer neighbor and then just for laughs, burns up yer best friend who's sleeping on yer couch and then, as you and yer wife and two year old kid are escaping from the inferno of you former home, (and again just for laughs), they run down yer wife and squash flat yer 'beautiful' child's head and leave you for dead Well I guess I'm just wondering at what point would it become justified (to YOU of course in this lawless new future where the police are only interested in beating and killing minorities and arresting docile potheads) to go out and find and visciously murder every single one of the cowardly, worthless m.o.t.h.e.r.f.u.c.k.e.r.s who did it?
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VirtualMark — 11 years ago(November 30, 2014 02:34 PM)
Ok, Johnny raped a girl earlier in the movie and set Goose on fire
Yeah, raping and burning people is petty crime. Max should have just given him a ticket. Derp.
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Harry_Bottom — 11 years ago(December 03, 2014 12:11 PM)
The revenge scene went too fast. I recently watched this film again on Netflix. I hadn't seen it since I was a kid (forgot how low budget it was compared to the sequels). I forgot how late into the movie it takes for him to go "mad". When his wife was killed, the Netflix timer showed only about 15 minutes left. It would have been nice if there was another 10 minutes of revenge. Toe Cutter's death was far too abrupt, as was everyone's except Johnny. I would have preferred Toe Cutter be the one that was strapped to the car with the hack saw. In fact, I would have liked to see more draw out painful deaths for everyone else, except somehow Johnny gets away and is featured in the sequel. As someone else mentioned it would have been great to see him as a bitch in Humungus's gang.
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vcl3-1 — 11 years ago(March 26, 2015 04:29 PM)
One thing nobody has mentioned is that Johnny helped Toecutter set up the ambush on Max on the highway. He laid down, drawing Max to the bike by the side of the road. Thereby, allowing Toecutter & his gang to shoot and run over Max's arm, breaking it. He was an accessory to a murder plot. So does Johnny deserve what Max does to him? Absolutely.
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lexyladyjax — 10 years ago(July 28, 2015 01:52 PM)
One thing nobody has mentioned is that Johnny helped Toecutter set up the ambush on Max on the highway. He laid down, drawing Max to the bike by the side of the road. Thereby, allowing Toecutter & his gang to shoot and run over Max's arm, breaking it. He was an accessory to a murder plot. So does Johnny deserve what Max does to him? Absolutely.
Max was shot. In the
leg.
Thus Max was set up with a lifelong limp seen in the sequels.
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Michael71 — 10 years ago(June 08, 2015 03:52 PM)
Yeah it offers up a good philosifal question. I always thought it was harsh as he was the youngest and they clearly just influenced him and took advantage of him, he was also schizophrenic or whatever.
Also I think he didn't mean to set Goose on fire, the other guy sort of knocked ot out of his hand and it landed on the grass, but unfortunately the car still caught on fire.
So no I don't think he did deserve it but the others deserved to die.
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jeevese — 10 years ago(August 07, 2015 02:26 PM)
I think the OP is forgetting the point of the ending. The director was trying to illustrate that both villains met their fate the same way they committed their crimes. It's been a while since I've seen this movie, but Toecutter ran over Max's family and thus dies the same way. Johnny burned Goose to death and although Max may not know that Johnny was the one who personally burned Goose alive, the audience sees Johnny being blown up as an equal and justifiable death.
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sparrow_lt — 10 years ago(August 14, 2015 04:32 PM)
Dont forget Johnny apart from his part on the couple's rape (forgetting about the guy?), making death threats to the MFP.. his part in capturing and burning goose
afterwards he takes part in an attempt at killing Max ..AND he later murders a driver (he denies it but probably was him as he was dragging the driver's body back to the wreck rather than away from the wreck.. so unless the driver got out and died out seems like he got out injured and Johny finished him off)