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"Would you honestly kill johnny rather than simply arresting him?"

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    Harry_Bottom — 11 years ago(December 03, 2014 12:11 PM)

    The revenge scene went too fast. I recently watched this film again on Netflix. I hadn't seen it since I was a kid (forgot how low budget it was compared to the sequels). I forgot how late into the movie it takes for him to go "mad". When his wife was killed, the Netflix timer showed only about 15 minutes left. It would have been nice if there was another 10 minutes of revenge. Toe Cutter's death was far too abrupt, as was everyone's except Johnny. I would have preferred Toe Cutter be the one that was strapped to the car with the hack saw. In fact, I would have liked to see more draw out painful deaths for everyone else, except somehow Johnny gets away and is featured in the sequel. As someone else mentioned it would have been great to see him as a bitch in Humungus's gang.

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        jsn_reece — 11 years ago(February 09, 2015 07:37 PM)

        He caused Goose to get killed by the Toe Cutter!

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          grizzledgeezer — 11 years ago(March 08, 2015 07:28 AM)

          This is not a movie about the ethical treatment of criminals. It's about revenge.

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            vcl3-1 — 11 years ago(March 26, 2015 04:29 PM)

            One thing nobody has mentioned is that Johnny helped Toecutter set up the ambush on Max on the highway. He laid down, drawing Max to the bike by the side of the road. Thereby, allowing Toecutter & his gang to shoot and run over Max's arm, breaking it. He was an accessory to a murder plot. So does Johnny deserve what Max does to him? Absolutely.

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              lexyladyjax — 10 years ago(July 28, 2015 01:52 PM)

              One thing nobody has mentioned is that Johnny helped Toecutter set up the ambush on Max on the highway. He laid down, drawing Max to the bike by the side of the road. Thereby, allowing Toecutter & his gang to shoot and run over Max's arm, breaking it. He was an accessory to a murder plot. So does Johnny deserve what Max does to him? Absolutely.
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                Valaith — 10 years ago(August 26, 2015 06:10 AM)

                and his arm was run over immediately after that.

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                  JohnnySodoff — 10 years ago(April 28, 2015 10:21 PM)

                  Deserve? It's MAD Max. Max is mad. Max is crazy. Max doesn't know/care if he deserves it or not. He's on a mission of vengeance.

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                    rindercella — 10 years ago(April 29, 2015 05:29 PM)

                    Deserve? It's MAD Max. Max is mad. Max is crazy. Max doesn't know/care if he deserves it or not. He's on a mission of vengeance.
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                      jmillerdp — 10 years ago(June 07, 2015 01:56 AM)

                      Always good to hear from those who stand up for sadists!
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                        Michael71 — 10 years ago(June 08, 2015 03:52 PM)

                        Yeah it offers up a good philosifal question. I always thought it was harsh as he was the youngest and they clearly just influenced him and took advantage of him, he was also schizophrenic or whatever.
                        Also I think he didn't mean to set Goose on fire, the other guy sort of knocked ot out of his hand and it landed on the grass, but unfortunately the car still caught on fire.
                        So no I don't think he did deserve it but the others deserved to die.
                        As someone else said, beaten within an inch of his life may have been more appropiate, but then we lose the most iconic scenes.

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                          jeevese — 10 years ago(August 07, 2015 02:26 PM)

                          I think the OP is forgetting the point of the ending. The director was trying to illustrate that both villains met their fate the same way they committed their crimes. It's been a while since I've seen this movie, but Toecutter ran over Max's family and thus dies the same way. Johnny burned Goose to death and although Max may not know that Johnny was the one who personally burned Goose alive, the audience sees Johnny being blown up as an equal and justifiable death.
                          Frankly the ending, really makes up for the low-budget movie that this was. It was really slow paced in some parts, but I enjoyed it; especially the ending.

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                            sparrow_lt — 10 years ago(August 14, 2015 04:32 PM)

                            Dont forget Johnny apart from his part on the couple's rape (forgetting about the guy?), making death threats to the MFP.. his part in capturing and burning goose
                            afterwards he takes part in an attempt at killing Max ..AND he later murders a driver (he denies it but probably was him as he was dragging the driver's body back to the wreck rather than away from the wreck.. so unless the driver got out and died out seems like he got out injured and Johny finished him off)

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                              Herreken — 10 years ago(September 19, 2015 09:43 PM)

                              I didn't realize that before but yeah that dude was raped. I don't know if it was Johnny that did it, nor do I know if Johnny raped the girl as well.
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                                goatman86 — 10 years ago(September 02, 2015 09:54 PM)

                                In normal circumstances I would say a big no to vigilante justice.
                                This is the Mad Max universe and this film is set on the verge of civilisations collapse.
                                The police are under-funded, the courts both powerless and corrupt which is best personified by the 2 defence lawyers, the older gent who smugly says to the MFP "It Means you don't have a case" and the younger shorter funny sounding one who threatens "The courts will hear about this" while he gets shoved around.
                                So with the whole system failing Max naturally takes matters into his own hands, we see no effort from the MFP either to go after him.

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                                  Kawada_Kira — 10 years ago(September 29, 2015 08:04 PM)

                                  Who else think johnny didn't deserve what max does to him at the end? Ok, Johnny raped a girl earlier in the movie and set Goose on fire
                                  "Ok, he raped a girl and lit a man on fire, but"
                                  Yes, he deserved it.
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                                    wordsatplaytoday — 9 years ago(May 19, 2016 12:59 PM)

                                    Killing is always wrong no matter the reasons or who it's against. Even in self defense.
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                                      zoolzool — 9 years ago(July 05, 2016 10:40 PM)

                                      Yeah I would have killed him too. Even though I walked away from the movie thinking he dropped the match in the scuffle as opposed to throwing it (thus intentionally setting Jim on fire), he deserved what he got.
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                                        Nobodyinnit — 9 years ago(August 26, 2016 08:55 AM)

                                        Let's see if I were Max and I knew this guy was a) potential rapist/gang member terrorizing the countryside, b) burned my buddy alive c) and was more than likely involved in squashing my family d) never faced justice the first time I brought him in and probably never will e) mental and f) as long as the paperwork's clean
                                        I'd give him less of a chance than Max offered him to survive.
                                        Maybe Max felt more like OP because he didn't just blow Johnny's head right off. If you've ever had someone you're close to get murdered in cold blood, you kind of want them dead, and in a scenario where justice doesn't matter any more and these guys were just as likely to kill Max if they survive and find him again makes more sense to end them.

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                                          sillyspaghetti — 9 years ago(September 17, 2016 02:06 PM)

                                          I think he totally deserved it. Rapist and murderer. Quite a bleak film. Not seen it since childhood and is grimmer than I remember. But not bad.

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