The fattest, dumpiest hero ever pitted against the wimpiest villian ever
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ValerinAmberz — 16 years ago(November 25, 2009 09:39 PM)
Actually I think tony beckley makes the scariest villain ever. I liked the idea of making him vulnerable at times. Just like real killers, that's what made it so scary. I think he perfectly portrayed someone disturbed and capable of killing. It was a multi layered portrait, and some scenes are really freaky, like the one where he's nude in the bathroom and looking in the mirror (if I remember the scene correctly).
Killers who are killers because of mental insanity are both victims, weak and vulnerable, and a time bomb and manipulative and impossible to read. Tony beckley was great in my opinion. Much more realistic than some michael myers killing machine. It's not often you see murderers that are also "wimps"anthony perkins in psycho is another example
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Churchchick — 16 years ago(January 25, 2010 08:49 AM)
Well if you think about it he only terrorizes WOMEN. So, when he was beaten up by a MAN he wasn't really used to that or prepared.
This movie was INTENSELY scary from the opening scene to the last extremely creepy scene and WAY better than the remake.
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lobotomyboy63 — 16 years ago(January 26, 2010 02:29 PM)
I think it's an artifact of the past, in a way.
These days, we're so used to seeing buff cops fight buff villains, driving high powered cars and using high tech equipment. You'd think when your dog goes missing, Sylvester Stallone's going to use the crime lab from CSI down at the local police station to crack the case. No email, no cell phones, etc. in this oneno big car crashes, no TNA. Just a story.
"War Games" was on TV the other day and I marveled at how primitive the computers were. Of course, when I saw it in theaters I marveled at how advanced they were.
I can understand people being distracted by what's portrayed vs. what we have now. In this story, it doesn't bother me a bit but your mileage may vary.
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maximumxxxx — 14 years ago(November 10, 2011 09:37 PM)
"This movie was INTENSELY scary from the opening scene to the last extremely creepy scene and WAY better than the remake."
What? The first and last 15 minutes are the only good parts in this movie,
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jtfriday2000 — 13 years ago(June 29, 2012 06:45 PM)
What? The first and last 15 minutes are the only good parts in this movie,
I agree with this completely. After the first 15 minutes, the movie lost steam. The remake kept tension throughout and it was cool how it stayed in one location.
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ShyLivesMatter — 16 years ago(April 03, 2010 06:56 PM)
LOL I liked how they made the killer all scared of confrontation with the raging testosterone guy. Made me feel sorry for him, weird feeling to feel for a child killer. Also made me wonder what I'd do if I was in a bar and macho dude was all up in my face like that after I've already been constantly rejected - I can't imagine it being a pleasant feeling. Too bad that guy probably lived
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Nephilim-6 — 15 years ago(April 23, 2010 07:42 PM)
Also you gotta realize his meds were starting to wear off.
I thought the middle part while admittedly a tad too long had purpose to show the killer unravel to his former self while the behavioral meds were wearing off.
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tcg-2 — 15 years ago(November 16, 2010 10:25 AM)
"The fattest, dumpiest hero ever pitted against the wimpiest villian ever"
They were probably a lot closer to real life 'heroes' and 'villains' than most other hollywood fare. have you ever seen what real cops and serial killers look like? -
kytem2 — 14 years ago(March 19, 2012 12:50 PM)
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(I did not include his name here in case it spoils it)
"was terminally ill at the time of filming When a Stranger Calls in 1979, and died of cancer shortly after principal photography was completed (spring 1980)." -
Edward_de_Vere — 13 years ago(March 17, 2013 10:33 AM)
Worse, the movie never even tried to explain why these guys were so pathetic. Maybe if the short, rotund ex-cop was an alcoholic, or had had a heart bypass or something. Nope, I guess we we're just supposed to believe that this is your typical hard-boiled ex-cop. And I know that Charles Durning is a notable actor; I guess he was supposed to be the answer to Donald Pleasance in Halloween. But come on - Charles Durning just isn't Dirty Harry!!
And the villian had to be the wimpiest, most pathetic excuse for a bad guy this side of the Looney Toons. Wile E. Coyote, Yosemite Sam and Sylvester combined get beat up fewer times than this guy
And again, no explanation for how in the world a guy who is supposed to be a ruthless killer can also be so incredibly wimpy. Take the scene where he gets the snot beat out of him in the bar. If he had come back and laid some sadistic trap or something for the guy who beat him up, that might have added something. But no, he gets totally pounded, cries like a little girl, and runs away - end of story. Can you IMAGINE how the bar bully would have ended up if he had tried that on Hannibal Lecter??!!
What an inane post.
I hate to break it to you, but most cops (or retired cops) are not muscle-bound action heroes, and most serial killers aren't invincible, suave geniuses like Hannibal Lecter. If you want an accurate picture of what your typical serial killer is like, think Jeffrey Dahmer (who was beaten to death by a cellmate) - somebody who preys on the weak because he himself is pathetic and weak. -
Jay_Nadiah — 12 years ago(September 19, 2013 03:26 PM)
i'll somewhat agree with you on the P.I. was it necessary to get someone THAT fat and out of shape it was a bit comical at times when he was chasing the villain up the stairs and around the tables..
but I also agree with other posters that it added a sense of realism to have him look like a real life retired cop rather than a Hollywood one I just think someone a little less porky would have been better he still could have been a little overweight and out of shape just not as much.
the villain however I totally disagree with you on that the first thing I picked up on in the first bar scene was the realisation that he only preyed on children and women because he was not only weaker than most men but he probably had an inferiority complex about it and he took it out on the only people weaker than himself children it showed what a pathetic person he was. mentally and physically. -
Kimrubymoon — 9 years ago(June 09, 2016 10:19 PM)
Ignorant people SHOULD be stalked by a detective.and I hope he/she catches you. You obviously know nothing about psychology. I've went into the same details in other threads in these posts but size has nothing to do with sociopathy and contrary to the Halloween movies, actual human schizophrenic psychopaths aren't always "bad-ass" and pissed off. Jesus take some classes.
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Woodyanders — 4 months ago(November 25, 2025 02:03 AM)
I liked that the villain was this pathetic wretch instead some sort of superhuman fiend. I also likewise liked that the private eye on the killer's tail was this portly middle-aged dude.
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