The fattest, dumpiest hero ever pitted against the wimpiest villian ever
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ShyLivesMatter — 16 years ago(April 03, 2010 06:56 PM)
LOL I liked how they made the killer all scared of confrontation with the raging testosterone guy. Made me feel sorry for him, weird feeling to feel for a child killer. Also made me wonder what I'd do if I was in a bar and macho dude was all up in my face like that after I've already been constantly rejected - I can't imagine it being a pleasant feeling. Too bad that guy probably lived
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Nephilim-6 — 15 years ago(April 23, 2010 07:42 PM)
Also you gotta realize his meds were starting to wear off.
I thought the middle part while admittedly a tad too long had purpose to show the killer unravel to his former self while the behavioral meds were wearing off.
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tcg-2 — 15 years ago(November 16, 2010 10:25 AM)
"The fattest, dumpiest hero ever pitted against the wimpiest villian ever"
They were probably a lot closer to real life 'heroes' and 'villains' than most other hollywood fare. have you ever seen what real cops and serial killers look like? -
kytem2 — 14 years ago(March 19, 2012 12:50 PM)
According to his wikipedia page, <
(I did not include his name here in case it spoils it)
"was terminally ill at the time of filming When a Stranger Calls in 1979, and died of cancer shortly after principal photography was completed (spring 1980)." -
Edward_de_Vere — 13 years ago(March 17, 2013 10:33 AM)
Worse, the movie never even tried to explain why these guys were so pathetic. Maybe if the short, rotund ex-cop was an alcoholic, or had had a heart bypass or something. Nope, I guess we we're just supposed to believe that this is your typical hard-boiled ex-cop. And I know that Charles Durning is a notable actor; I guess he was supposed to be the answer to Donald Pleasance in Halloween. But come on - Charles Durning just isn't Dirty Harry!!
And the villian had to be the wimpiest, most pathetic excuse for a bad guy this side of the Looney Toons. Wile E. Coyote, Yosemite Sam and Sylvester combined get beat up fewer times than this guy
And again, no explanation for how in the world a guy who is supposed to be a ruthless killer can also be so incredibly wimpy. Take the scene where he gets the snot beat out of him in the bar. If he had come back and laid some sadistic trap or something for the guy who beat him up, that might have added something. But no, he gets totally pounded, cries like a little girl, and runs away - end of story. Can you IMAGINE how the bar bully would have ended up if he had tried that on Hannibal Lecter??!!
What an inane post.
I hate to break it to you, but most cops (or retired cops) are not muscle-bound action heroes, and most serial killers aren't invincible, suave geniuses like Hannibal Lecter. If you want an accurate picture of what your typical serial killer is like, think Jeffrey Dahmer (who was beaten to death by a cellmate) - somebody who preys on the weak because he himself is pathetic and weak. -
Jay_Nadiah — 12 years ago(September 19, 2013 03:26 PM)
i'll somewhat agree with you on the P.I. was it necessary to get someone THAT fat and out of shape it was a bit comical at times when he was chasing the villain up the stairs and around the tables..
but I also agree with other posters that it added a sense of realism to have him look like a real life retired cop rather than a Hollywood one I just think someone a little less porky would have been better he still could have been a little overweight and out of shape just not as much.
the villain however I totally disagree with you on that the first thing I picked up on in the first bar scene was the realisation that he only preyed on children and women because he was not only weaker than most men but he probably had an inferiority complex about it and he took it out on the only people weaker than himself children it showed what a pathetic person he was. mentally and physically. -
Kimrubymoon — 9 years ago(June 09, 2016 10:19 PM)
Ignorant people SHOULD be stalked by a detective.and I hope he/she catches you. You obviously know nothing about psychology. I've went into the same details in other threads in these posts but size has nothing to do with sociopathy and contrary to the Halloween movies, actual human schizophrenic psychopaths aren't always "bad-ass" and pissed off. Jesus take some classes.
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Woodyanders — 4 months ago(November 25, 2025 02:03 AM)
I liked that the villain was this pathetic wretch instead some sort of superhuman fiend. I also likewise liked that the private eye on the killer's tail was this portly middle-aged dude.
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